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02-17-2016, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
ExpressJet just voted in their new extension. $37/hr first year FO pay. Thoughts on if SkyWest is gonna go to the $36.50 they put in our last deal? No trolls please...
02-17-2016, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
ExpressJet just voted in their new extension. $37/hr first year FO pay. Thoughts on if SkyWest is gonna go to the $36.50 they put in our last deal? No trolls please...
02-17-2016, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Utah
I don't think the MRJ will ever fly here. Haven't heard anything official, but there isn't any reason not to put any new contracts we get with the ERJ.
Take a look at our Board of Directors and what other positions those guys hold in the aviation industry. You might find your answer there.
Take a look at our Board of Directors and what other positions those guys hold in the aviation industry. You might find your answer there.
Seat count and weight are falling in line with current scope.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-count-420715/
02-17-2016, 09:22 AM
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Skyw could very easily (not talking easy profits) start branded flying. Independence air....I know, I know. The Alley-giant, Frontbus & Sparkle all are doing alright to great; there is no reason Sgu couldn't find routes with no competition on them for 20-40 frames.
Anyway, it would give them a chance for more VPs. "...And the new VP of Peanut Saftey is..."
I hope they do raise first year, then we can start talking about everyone else again.
We need to start thinking of better pay rates in the 7/9/175 and let the 200 be.
Anyway, it would give them a chance for more VPs. "...And the new VP of Peanut Saftey is..."
I hope they do raise first year, then we can start talking about everyone else again.
We need to start thinking of better pay rates in the 7/9/175 and let the 200 be.
02-17-2016, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Skyw could very easily (not talking easy profits) start branded flying. Independence air....I know, I know. The Alley-giant, Frontbus & Sparkle all are doing alright to great; there is no reason Sgu couldn't find routes with no competition on them for 20-40 frames.
Anyway, it would give them a chance for more VPs. "...And the new VP of Peanut Saftey is..."
I hope they do raise first year, then we can start talking about everyone else again.
We need to start thinking of better pay rates in the 7/9/175 and let the 200 be.
Anyway, it would give them a chance for more VPs. "...And the new VP of Peanut Saftey is..."
I hope they do raise first year, then we can start talking about everyone else again.
We need to start thinking of better pay rates in the 7/9/175 and let the 200 be.
This is the last thing SGU would want to do; it would be a final act of desperation. In that scenario their best bet would be to start a narrow-body LCC, with limited supporting RJ's. But you're not going to see another auqajet.
02-17-2016, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AFflyer
ExpressJet just voted in their new extension. $37/hr first year FO pay. Thoughts on if SkyWest is gonna go to the $36.50 they put in our last deal? No trolls please...
Not until they can't fill new hires classes. Hasn't happened yet.
02-17-2016, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by WesternSkies
Skyw could very easily (not talking easy profits) start branded flying. Independence air....I know, I know. The Alley-giant, Frontbus & Sparkle all are doing alright to great; there is no reason Sgu couldn't find routes with no competition on them for 20-40 frames.
Anyway, it would give them a chance for more VPs. "...And the new VP of Peanut Saftey is..."
I hope they do raise first year, then we can start talking about everyone else again.
We need to start thinking of better pay rates in the 7/9/175 and let the 200 be.
Anyway, it would give them a chance for more VPs. "...And the new VP of Peanut Saftey is..."
I hope they do raise first year, then we can start talking about everyone else again.
We need to start thinking of better pay rates in the 7/9/175 and let the 200 be.
The good news is that once you get to $40 you are getting pretty close to second year pay and those rates would need to increase slightly. If it wasn't obvious with the last pay package, all the company cares about is getting new hires. They don't care about anyone with longevity. Which is probably why you see some many higher seniority people pulling the chute.
02-17-2016, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by What
The MRJ 70 with the geared engine is likely to carry similar CASM to the CRJ 700 that it would replace. United and Delta have room for 204 combined 70 seat RJs under the SCOPE clause. At some point the CRJ700s and E175 will need to be replaced and the E170 will not be made in a geared engine variant.
*i would have to verify that the 70 seat RJs don't have a lower MTOW requirement under SCOPE.
The 70 seat variant isn't likely to be delivered for 3 to 5 years down the road... By that time some of these 700s will be 20 years old.
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*i would have to verify that the 70 seat RJs don't have a lower MTOW requirement under SCOPE.
The 70 seat variant isn't likely to be delivered for 3 to 5 years down the road... By that time some of these 700s will be 20 years old.
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Current mainline scope clauses generally have a MGTOW limit as well as a seat limit for RJ's. Seat count is not a precise indicator of economic potential since a higher MGTOW allows for more cargo, which is now a lucrative aspect of the pax airline business.
IIRC the MRJ exceeds MGTOW for most scope clauses. The designers incorrectly assumed (and stated publicly) that scope clauses could be adjusted as necessary, but the pilot group have had enough of that.
Bombardier made the same mistake with with C-series...too small for most mainline ops, to big for regional scope, "assumed" scope would be adjusted.
02-17-2016, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Problem is that with our last pay package, we gave the company the option to raise first year pay to any amount without a pilot vote. All they have to do is get SAPA to sign off on it. And we all know how hard it is for the company to get SAPA on board with something....
The good news is that once you get to $40 you are getting pretty close to second year pay and those rates would need to increase slightly. If it wasn't obvious with the last pay package, all the company cares about is getting new hires. They don't care about anyone with longevity. Which is probably why you see some many higher seniority people pulling the chute.
The good news is that once you get to $40 you are getting pretty close to second year pay and those rates would need to increase slightly. If it wasn't obvious with the last pay package, all the company cares about is getting new hires. They don't care about anyone with longevity. Which is probably why you see some many higher seniority people pulling the chute.
02-17-2016, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Problem is that with our last pay package, we gave the company the option to raise first year pay to any amount without a pilot vote.
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