ClickClickBoom

Do you think that it hasn't been tried? 3 drives all failed, SKYW spends a lot to keep unions off property. Why? Do the math.....

Westernflight

This exactly... Just some basic numbers:

3800 pilots at SkyWest. We'll say 3000 join whatever in house thing we certify.

Next we'll assume average wage between FOs and CAs is $75,000 (way on the high side)

2% of $75,000 is $1500

$1500 x 3000 pilots is $4.5 million

How long do you think $4.5 in capital is going to last when it comes to employing all the people needed to properly negotiate a contract? Mind you all $4.5 million won't be there upfront.

Now add in the cost of litigating one wrongful employment case. Now two... Skywest could kill the whole thing by making an example of just a couple pilots. As much as I would love to start from nothing and go it alone, financially it would be a disaster. Failure from undercapitalization.

Not saying ALPA is the automatic choice but joining an existing union umbrella like them is the only realistic option here. We don't have enough pilots and we don't make enough money to fund the startup costs. Short of Herb Kelleher showing up and paying for our start up costs (like he did for SWAPA) it's just not a very realistic option to go it alone. We'll need help.

atpcliff

I don't like ALPA or teamsters, but I think 1224 teamsters is better for regionals than ALPA. I think ALPA favours the majors too much, and wouldn't help Skywest as much as they should because of their major airline bias.

fastback

That is rough. I don't notify other crew members to call the company. I'll tell brand noobs it isn't kosher to notify others. "They aren't here sorry". I'll usually call back myself if they're trying to get me, but if you think there's a chance they're trying to tag you, just walk off the plane with a phone to your ear. Gate agent says anything, "smile and wave boys." If your situation happened to me the correct response is 'we copy the gate see you in twenty'. Sorry again.

fastback

Subtle...smart

Apokleros

What is pairing?

ConfigFlaps

pair·ing
ˈperiNG/
noun
an arrangement or match resulting from organizing or forming people or things into pairs.
"the dancers made a fine pairing"
the action of pairing things or people.
"the pairing of food and wine"

Apokleros

Seriously? But what is being paired, and for what purpose?

ConfigFlaps

can't tell whether you're serious or not. A pairing (or "trip") is a string of flights anywhere from 1-4 days in length. Called a pairing because most of the time you're paired with the same crew for the length of the trip.

turboflyin

And Skywest has been ignoring that as well. PBS ignores it when it needs to fill minimum line values each month. The other problem that many are having, is transitioning to the 175. The company is refusing transition awards to CRJ pilots because of "company needs", but is still filling new hire 175 classes. So new hires are getting the higher paid airplane with the better schedules, and when a guy/gal on property asks to transition, they get told no. The company doesn't give a **** about seniority.