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Old 07-11-2014 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
IAH and ORD probably have the best trips among the junior bases (that someone junior can actually hold). Even bidding 80% in Chicago I was able to hold mostly commutable 4 days. IAH is mostly 700 so it's a base where even junior FOs will get 700 trips.

Transfers are awarded based on seniority. It doesn't matter what base you're in (as long as you're on the correct plane). If you're on the Brasilia waiting for a transition to LAX CRJ they'll award transfers to people junior to you. If you're on the CRJ bidding LAX CRJ you'll get it as soon as your seniority can hold it. It most likely won't take more than a year and at times can be quicker than that.
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Old 07-12-2014 | 07:35 AM
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Hey everyone.. Sorry to throw this "unrelated" question into such a serious conversation. I was talking to a friend at a different regional who said they are on a 28 day bid period, I heard SkyWest is on monthly bid. New to the regionals, I can only think of things better with a 13 cycle year... 11 more days off, 75 +,- 5 more hours pay per year. What are the advantages to doing it like SkyWest? And sorry if any of my information is incorrect, it came from talking to other people.
Your math might be a little fuzzy... Now, if you have 13 bid periods of 28 days, and you seem to be assuming that you get 11 days off each bid period (I don't know which contract you're comparing us to and if that's even accurate, but we can go with it). Great, that is 143 days off a year. Split amongst 12 bid periods, it averages 11.9 days off a month to get the same number of yearly off days. If you're purely reserve, SkyWest actually bases the bid on 19 duty days a month, which works out to be 137 off days in a calendar year, which is a difference of 6, not 11. If you're going to work more than that as a line holder, then you're going to make a lot more than 75 hours that month. These days at SkyWest, reserve on the jet seems to be short and fleeting in all but the most senior domiciles, and most of the people I talk to are breaking guarantee if they are on reserve. That usually means about 90-100 credit hours a month. Yeah, you could have fewer days off, but I'm not sure that it makes a 28 day bid superior. Are your days off being rolled? (Changed arbitrarily by scheduling) We don't do that here. We don't change your award during transition to stuff more flying on you. Also, our bids encompass the entire calendar month (give or take, usually February takes a day or two from January & March to even it out, and Halloween used to fall in the November bid) so there is some consistency there instead of just every four weeks. And you only have to remember to bid 12 times ;-) There is so much more to life at an airline than just base pay rate and monthly guarantee.
Old 07-12-2014 | 09:37 AM
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Your math might be a little fuzzy... Now, if you have 13 bid periods of 28 days, and you seem to be assuming that you get 11 days off each bid period (I don't know which contract you're comparing us to and if that's even accurate, but we can go with it). Great, that is 143 days off a year. Split amongst 12 bid periods, it averages 11.9 days off a month to get the same number of yearly off days. If you're purely reserve, SkyWest actually bases the bid on 19 duty days a month, which works out to be 137 off days in a calendar year, which is a difference of 6, not 11. If you're going to work more than that as a line holder, then you're going to make a lot more than 75 hours that month. These days at SkyWest, reserve on the jet seems to be short and fleeting in all but the most senior domiciles, and most of the people I talk to are breaking guarantee if they are on reserve. That usually means about 90-100 credit hours a month. Yeah, you could have fewer days off, but I'm not sure that it makes a 28 day bid superior. Are your days off being rolled? (Changed arbitrarily by scheduling) We don't do that here. We don't change your award during transition to stuff more flying on you. Also, our bids encompass the entire calendar month (give or take, usually February takes a day or two from January & March to even it out, and Halloween used to fall in the November bid) so there is some consistency there instead of just every four weeks. And you only have to remember to bid 12 times ;-) There is so much more to life at an airline than just base pay rate and monthly guarantee.
NICE! That is what I was looking for thanks! I am coming to SkyWest this month and am still picking up info. I believe I am making a good choice with OO for many reasons. And some friends at other regionals pointed this difference out, which really does not seem like a very big deal at all in the grand scheme. Thanks again for the info!
Old 07-12-2014 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MoovenUP
Hey everyone.. Sorry to throw this "unrelated" question into such a serious conversation. I was talking to a friend at a different regional who said they are on a 28 day bid period, I heard SkyWest is on monthly bid. New to the regionals, I can only think of things better with a 13 cycle year... 11 more days off, 75 +,- 5 more hours pay per year. What are the advantages to doing it like SkyWest? And sorry if any of my information is incorrect, it came from talking to other people.
The only thing that matters is what's in your contract. It has nothing to do with 28 day bid periods or monthly bid periods. You can have great work rules or crappy work rules with either. At Skywest, they can change it at will, if they want.
Old 07-12-2014 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by MoovenUP
NICE! That is what I was looking for thanks! I am coming to SkyWest this month and am still picking up info. I believe I am making a good choice with OO for many reasons. And some friends at other regionals pointed this difference out, which really does not seem like a very big deal at all in the grand scheme. Thanks again for the info!
Welcome, new hires are all going to the jet, last class all went to either MSP or ORD initially.
Old 07-12-2014 | 06:34 PM
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Another curious question...what are trips out of COS like?
Old 07-13-2014 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck
Another curious question...what are trips out of COS like?
Start early, end late.
Old 07-13-2014 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by EngineOut
Start early, end late.
High /low credit? 200/700 flying?
Old 07-13-2014 | 09:29 AM
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Start early, end late.




High /low credit? 200/700 flying?
All the above... I loved the base while I was there. Awesome crews who are like family
Old 07-13-2014 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
The only thing that matters is what's in your contract. It has nothing to do with 28 day bid periods or monthly bid periods. You can have great work rules or crappy work rules with either. At Skywest, they can change it at will, if they want.
It's all the same. It is a legal contract that they have and is about as strong as any union contract.
How is that you may ask? Well...I've had my union contract stomped on, tossed out, and have been told to grieve it. This usually to no avail. In the end, any management can do whatever they want regardless of how strong a union contract is. Not bitter just pointing out the realities of the business.
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