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Old 08-07-2014 | 09:39 AM
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I'm glad everyone had a good rant about the people they fly with.
Old 08-07-2014 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Now that this spiraled out of control... The only thing I'll comment on is the post about not doing the walk around because we're not fueled. 9/10 times I'll wait, it takes longer to make two trips and most likely have to fight a swarm of people boarding or tons of bags in the jet bridge. My time is better utilized doing other work to get the next flight out.
Huh,
CRJ SOP Pg 1-7,8
9. Aircraft Preflight
D, 1)a "External Walkaround"

Comes before
Pg 1-1.9 Passenger Boarding

And
1-1.9
11 A. After the aircraft pre-flight responsibilities have been completed, the
captain or first officer notifies the station the flight is ready for passenger
boarding.

Your "time" is best spent complying with the SOP as its written, not your idea of how it should be....the pre/post flight inspection is done before boarding so passengers aren't boarded onto a broken plane and MX has the maximum amount of time to remedy the situation.

This is exactly what I am talking about, F/Os doing what they think is their "interpretation" of the SOP. Nice try though, an alarming number of F/Os have this "interpretation" attitude,

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Old 08-07-2014 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
He's gotta be a captain since he's taking off bleeds closed with a deferred APU.

Everyone makes mistakes....even captains.
Might wanna study up, your lack of experience is showing
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Huh,
CRJ SOP Pg 1-7,8
9. Aircraft Preflight
D, 1)a "External Walkaround"

Comes before
Pg 1-1.9 Passenger Boarding

And
1-1.9
11 A. After the aircraft pre-flight responsibilities have been completed, the
captain or first officer notifies the station the flight is ready for passenger
boarding.

Your "time" is best spent complying with the SOP as its written, not your idea of how it should be....the pre/post flight inspection is done before boarding so passengers aren't boarded onto a broken plane and MX has the maximum amount of time to remedy the situation.

This is exactly what I am talking about, F/Os doing what they think is their "interpretation" of the SOP. Nice try though, an alarming number of F/Os have this "interpretation" attitude,
This^^^ As an FO, as irritating as it is having to fly with the guy who doesn't do jack until the door is closed, let me tell you how fantastic it is having your FO report to you five minutes prior to departure that there is a bird strike/bald tire/hydraulic leak because no one's been outside since the plane pulled in and they thought their time would be "better spent" .
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:17 AM
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I better get to posting..I'm very new..and love hearing. Everyones input...I have got a long way to go and a lot to learn..there are a lot of you iwith a lot of good info to give to us new guys..and I know it can get real hot..so thank you for helping out the new ones..thank you
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Might wanna study up, your lack of experience is showing
Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

So you're taking off unpressurized?
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
My awesomeness is staggering. You're still welcome for not letting you get us violated. Carry on.
Quick take a selfie and post it on FB! I hope your mom "likes" it on FB too. Maybe a ribbon when you get home?
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by pagey
Maybe I'm misunderstanding.

So you're taking off unpressurized?
What do you think MR EXPERT?
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Huh,
CRJ SOP Pg 1-7,8
9. Aircraft Preflight
D, 1)a "External Walkaround"

Comes before
Pg 1-1.9 Passenger Boarding

And
1-1.9
11 A. After the aircraft pre-flight responsibilities have been completed, the
captain or first officer notifies the station the flight is ready for passenger
boarding.

Your "time" is best spent complying with the SOP as its written, not your idea of how it should be....the pre/post flight inspection is done before boarding so passengers aren't boarded onto a broken plane and MX has the maximum amount of time to remedy the situation.

This is exactly what I am talking about, F/Os doing what they think is their "interpretation" of the SOP. Nice try though, an alarming number of F/Os have this "interpretation" attitude,
So just don't board then until your FO does the walk around. I'm sure you do that right since that's the only way to comply with what you posted.
Old 08-07-2014 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
What do you think MR EXPERT?
Ok chief.

Have a nice day.
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