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From: Another RJ FO
CIC is done in December. SMF-ACV is getting cut. The whole PDX base closes in September. I've seen SFO-SBA and LAX-SBA united flights in RJ bid packages the last 2 months too. Those flights were all Brasilia the whole time I flew the Bro. It seems bad all around for that plane.
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CIC is done in December. SMF-ACV is getting cut. The whole PDX base closes in September. I've seen SFO-SBA and LAX-SBA united flights in RJ bid packages the last 2 months too. Those flights were all Brasilia the whole time I flew the Bro. It seems bad all around for that plane.
#6345
Word is that most, if not all, EMBs will be retired by the end of 2015. It's becoming too expensive to replace the prop blades, and the only company that manufactures them is lucky to churn one out in less then two weeks. I'm sure a good portion of that flying will transition to pro-rate on the CRJ2.
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Real reason, pilot efficiency. UAL pulled the plug on the EMB, 28 people vs 50, to even allude to anything remotely resembling anything like a pilot shortage would cede the power to the pilots. Make no mistake, the industry is getting squiggly and can't figure out how to fix it. Some cities that will not support higher yield fares will be relegated to Greyhound codeshares. Follow the money.
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Man, how many of us would change our vote on the last pay package knowing that the pay raise for the Bro was only going to be for 18 months? Everyone was so convinced the Bro wasn't going anywhere, that we allowed ourselves to pay money out to 1st and 2nd year guys on a plane that was on its way out the door. I felt that was the biggest indication that the plane was on it's way out. Management played on us knowing that the Bro pilots had been hosed for years, and our hard rate for the 175.
Also, any bets that trip stacking that went away with 117 will be added back as a feature for the next pay package? Or more promises to work on reserve improvements.
Also, any bets that trip stacking that went away with 117 will be added back as a feature for the next pay package? Or more promises to work on reserve improvements.
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Like I said "follow the money" These decisions are made behind closed boardroom doors, so unless you are a member of the board(highly doubtful), it's algebra. SKYW has started to load its diaper and they are getting diaper rash. What halfway intelligent pilot would come to a company that has a 7+ year upgrade, when they can go to GoJhets or Meas and upgrade in a much shorter time, regionals, every single one is just a whistle stop on almost every pilots career. Because some pilots got jammed up by 9/11 and got comfortable doesn't mean its the best career choice. The difference between GoJhets and a Skywest tour could be more than $1,000,000 for a young guy. So stop swilling the Kool-Aid and do the math(algebra).
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Like I said "follow the money" These decisions are made behind closed boardroom doors, so unless you are a member of the board(highly doubtful), it's algebra. SKYW has started to load its diaper and they are getting diaper rash. What halfway intelligent pilot would come to a company that has a 7+ year upgrade, when they can go to GoJhets or Meas and upgrade in a much shorter time, regionals, every single one is just a whistle stop on almost every pilots career. Because some pilots got jammed up by 9/11 and got comfortable doesn't mean its the best career choice. The difference between GoJhets and a Skywest tour could be more than $1,000,000 for a young guy. So stop swilling the Kool-Aid and do the math(algebra).
You are absolutely correct in this post. It's spot on.
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Man, how many of us would change our vote on the last pay package knowing that the pay raise for the Bro was only going to be for 18 months? Everyone was so convinced the Bro wasn't going anywhere, that we allowed ourselves to pay money out to 1st and 2nd year guys on a plane that was on its way out the door. I felt that was the biggest indication that the plane was on it's way out. Management played on us knowing that the Bro pilots had been hosed for years, and our hard rate for the 175.
Also, any bets that trip stacking that went away with 117 will be added back as a feature for the next pay package? Or more promises to work on reserve improvements.
Also, any bets that trip stacking that went away with 117 will be added back as a feature for the next pay package? Or more promises to work on reserve improvements.
SKYW has all the contracts, plans and cards. You have nothing to make an informed decision except intuition and the magic 8 ball, so when SAPA(SKYW Inc AD agency) tells you that this is the best you are gonna get, that's the word from the company. So many guys refuse to listen to those who have gone there before, and as a consequence make the same exact mistakes, lesson. If the company is offering anything its because they aren't planning on having to pay it. Pilots are paying checkers when the company is playing 3D chess. Want better work rules? Leave......
Been there for more than a decade, it has been a slow decay(frog in pot of boiling water). Am planning to leave.
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