Skywest
#6371
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Posts: 611
You're welcome. I mean, if Wal-Mart can do it, why not SkyWest? Besides...since you are all "going on to bigger and better things" as soon as possible, why do you care where HDQ is? Or the caliber of executives running the show? Collect a paycheck, accumulate your time, and move on....right?
#6372
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Another RJ FO
Posts: 1,272
You're welcome. I mean, if Wal-Mart can do it, why not SkyWest? Besides...since you are all "going on to bigger and better things" as soon as possible, why do you care where HDQ is? Or the caliber of executives running the show? Collect a paycheck, accumulate your time, and move on....right?
If every employee had a "screw this place I plan to move on" attitude the company would fail pretty fast. Look at Expressjet and Endeavor.
I'm not sure why that even has to be explained to you. Are you really that sheltered?
#6373
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2014
Posts: 584
There's no reason why they'd need to move! You guys seriously have one of the best run (financially) airlines out there! I don't think you guys really want what you call "best corporate talent".... Those are the people who make 1.5 billion in profits and then demand that you take huge concessions because you are too expensive! (See AAG).... You really don't know how well your company is run...
Come to envoy for a few weeks and see what a real circus is like!
Come to envoy for a few weeks and see what a real circus is like!
#6374
Having HDQ in small old SGU definitely makes business traveling more costly. I guess to some extent they cant attract from as large of a pool of talent as say LA, NYC or ORD. But you need to realize that the costs of being in such a place offset the savings. Average wages for even the lowest position would be required to be much higher to offset cost of living and hire competitively. The tax burden in Utah and SGU is very low, and the city caters to them like a groupie, it being one of the largest employers. Also, if they move they are going to have to spend tens of millions on construction and real estate, or a fat lease payment. Considering they've been on 444 S River Rd for near 30 years means something. I assume its payed for, only (cheap) property tax. Or they could be like UA and rent a chunk of the Sears tower. It would also cost millions to move all your stuff from A to be B.
At the low end jobs, wages there are equal to FA first yr pay, and usually have pretty good employees for that kind of wage, because there aren't that many other jobs. CS is what it is, you dont need a bachelors in Communication. Middle management is mostly promoted within and might be less talented. Top end jobs the talent is high, they know how to scout well. Just look at the results.
Its not moving. Also consider some non-business factors. The Atkins are some of the original settlers of SGU, CC was born and raised in CDC, nearly all the upper management went to college in Utah. They all got their mansions built, and families established into the community. Again, not moving.
At the low end jobs, wages there are equal to FA first yr pay, and usually have pretty good employees for that kind of wage, because there aren't that many other jobs. CS is what it is, you dont need a bachelors in Communication. Middle management is mostly promoted within and might be less talented. Top end jobs the talent is high, they know how to scout well. Just look at the results.
Its not moving. Also consider some non-business factors. The Atkins are some of the original settlers of SGU, CC was born and raised in CDC, nearly all the upper management went to college in Utah. They all got their mansions built, and families established into the community. Again, not moving.
#6375
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: RJ Captain
Posts: 1,174
Headquarters isn't moving.
And for what they pay those working in St. George, they wouldn't be finding cheaper employees elsewhere.
And for what they pay those working in St. George, they wouldn't be finding cheaper employees elsewhere.
#6376
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Just another RJ guy
Posts: 906
SkyWest became the largest operator of aircraft in the world, now second only to American Airlines Group, from tiny little St. George. Looks like the ability to run a successful, multi-billion dollar corporation really isn't as tough as you want to make it sound. I think there's a corporation in a town called Bentonville, AR that would be better served to move their HDQ, too, right?
#6377
Banned
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: EMB 145 CPT
Posts: 2,934
Skywest
SkyWest became the largest operator of aircraft in the world, now second only to American Airlines Group, from tiny little St. George. Looks like the ability to run a successful, multi-billion dollar corporation really isn't as tough as you want to make it sound. I think there's a corporation in a town called Bentonville, AR that would be better served to move their HDQ, too, right?
Wait, I thought that was XJT? Or are we one company with one CEO? One List!
Because people have pride in their job regardless of what their future plans are. I've taken my job seriously and wanted the company to succeed at all of the little odd minimum wage jobs I've worked in my life. Skywest is no different. Despite the fact that I will leave Skywest I still have pride in my job and want the company to improve.
If every employee had a "screw this place I plan to move on" attitude the company would fail pretty fast. Look at Expressjet and Endeavor.
I'm not sure why that even has to be explained to you. Are you really that sheltered?
If every employee had a "screw this place I plan to move on" attitude the company would fail pretty fast. Look at Expressjet and Endeavor.
I'm not sure why that even has to be explained to you. Are you really that sheltered?
Just to add, xjt was not like that before Skywest bought us. So I see what you mean. But once you stop worrying about how others know how crappy your airline is now, the less you think about it and put more energy towards getting out. That's not to say that you shouldn't give your job the honest day's work and stay professional.
There's no reason why they'd need to move! You guys seriously have one of the best run (financially) airlines out there! I don't think you guys really want what you call "best corporate talent".... Those are the people who make 1.5 billion in profits and then demand that you take huge concessions because you are too expensive! (See AAG).... You really don't know how well your company is run...
Come to envoy for a few weeks and see what a real circus is like!
Come to envoy for a few weeks and see what a real circus is like!
Well, our CEO did just that. Demanded huge concessions. Luckily we voted no to those concessions.
#6379
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 23
Current FOs on other equipment have a seat lock that will most likely curb their desire to fly an airplane with engines under the wings at Skywest. This means you might be off reserve faster than predicted. Many CRJ FOs are holding out for an upgrade of some sort and don't want to deal with seat locks and such. No way to predict your time on reserve since it's dependent on aircraft deliveries and contracts.
#6380
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2009
Position: Another RJ FO
Posts: 1,272
Current FOs on other equipment have a seat lock that will most likely curb their desire to fly an airplane with engines under the wings at Skywest. This means you might be off reserve faster than predicted. Many CRJ FOs are holding out for an upgrade of some sort and don't want to deal with seat locks and such. No way to predict your time on reserve since it's dependent on aircraft deliveries and contracts.
Current FOs aren't bidding it likely due to only two domiciles, very few routes and poor paying trips, and loss of Delta benefits. Eventually when any one of those three things improves current FOs will start bidding it. I live in a 175 domicile and I'll bid it myself once those things improve.
In my opinion a new hire taking the 175 will probably have a pretty turbulent time in terms of seniority. They may move up quick as new routes are added but current FOs aren't bidding it yet. Once current FOs start bidding it someone who was holding a line will see themselves moving further and further down each month.
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