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Old 11-10-2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
People keep saying that but I've only met two FOs total who have gone to UA, AA or DL. Both had strong family connections and one was female. That's not much compared to about 50 captains I know who have gone to majors in the past 2 years. I have yet to meet a white male FO with no family connections who has been hired without PIC.

I do know some FOs who have gone to Spirit and Virgin but to say that FOs are getting hired as quick as captains at the majors is pretty misleading unless I'm living in a cave. Can you actually back up that claim?

I agree with rcfd. Very few FOs getting on with UA, DL or AA. There are some, but most are going to Spirit, Allegiant, Virgin America. The ones that went to the legacys have some pretty good connections or fit a certain demographic that the airline likes (DL).
Old 11-10-2014 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rcfd13
People keep saying that but I've only met two FOs total who have gone to UA, AA or DL. Both had strong family connections and one was female. That's not much compared to about 50 captains I know who have gone to majors in the past 2 years. I have yet to meet a white male FO with no family connections who has been hired without PIC.

I do know some FOs who have gone to Spirit and Virgin but to say that FOs are getting hired as quick as captains at the majors is pretty misleading unless I'm living in a cave. Can you actually back up that claim?

Nope, I know of 2 guys that got on with UAL, one about 10 months ago and one leaving this week. Neither had any TPIC but they both busted their ass to get the interview and are like able types. Actually I've heard having a bunch of TPIC can be a killer right now and those with a bunch are being advised to reduce the number submitted on their resume?

I think a year or two from now, if you can fog a mirror, you'll get hired at a major.

A friend in the training department at UAL said they are hiring 30 a week for the next 36 months, and then they will hire 40 a week for the next 36 months.
Old 11-11-2014 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete

A friend in the training department at UAL said they are hiring 30 a week for the next 36 months, and then they will hire 40 a week for the next 36 months.
Every week? That's 5000+ in three years. I wonder what other majors projections are looking like.
Old 11-11-2014 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by soakingpilot
I just read the gouge. Im terrified. No joke.
Study hard and get your logbooks up to date. Practice your drawings, and dress for success.
SkyWest doesn't just want good pilots, it wants good people. Good luck!
Old 11-11-2014 | 06:08 AM
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[QUOTE=Check Complete;1761575]Nope, I know of 2 guys that got on with UAL, one about 10 months ago and one leaving this week. Neither had any TPIC but they both busted their ass to get the interview and are like able types. Actually I've heard having a bunch of TPIC can be a killer right now and those with a bunch are being advised to reduce the number submitted on their resume?
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You knowing 2 FOs who have been hired by UA hardly disproves my point. I also know 2 and we're probably talking about the same two people. I probably know over 50 captaons who have gone to the majors recently. PIC may not be required but the odds certainly aren't in your favor without it. I think it's false to tell people they don't need it.
Old 11-11-2014 | 10:34 AM
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I have some questions about the SkyWest interview and company questions can someone who works there shoot me a PM.
Old 11-11-2014 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by cal555
Study hard and get your logbooks up to date. Practice your drawings, and dress for success.
SkyWest doesn't just want good pilots, it wants good people. Good luck!
Because nothing says good person like being able to draw a turbine engine.
Old 11-11-2014 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Because nothing says good person like being able to draw a turbine engine.
I would argue that any 1500 hour pilot who hopes to fly pax in 121 service should have his head examined if he CAN'T draw a rudimentary turbine engine.

Good people tend to come prepared for things like job interviews.
Old 11-11-2014 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Because nothing says good person like being able to draw a turbine engine.
They want people who are trainable and want to be there. I interviewed 4 years ago and the "draw the turbine engine" thing was in the gouge back then. If people interviewing are unable to read a gouge and study the material then they clearly don't care enough about the job interview. It's not like they're giving people ridiculous questions at random. They're seeing if people studied for the interview or not using known questions.

If I interviewed someone who thought they were too good for my questions that you can easily find the answer to online I wouldn't hire them either. I'm glad we don't hire people who don't study.

There are some big musicians who are known to make ridiculous requests at shows like "no brown M&Ms in the candy tray." That way they know if their event staff is actually paying attention to detail or is just going through the motions. Some of the skywest interview questions may be a little weird, but they do a good job of weeding out the people who think they're just going to skate by without doing any work.
Old 11-11-2014 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Nantonaku
Because nothing says good person like being able to draw a turbine engine.
I nailed it.
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