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Old 03-13-2015 | 12:51 PM
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Old 03-13-2015 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
I do hope you really don't believe this


They made a killing on Azul. This a public company, public info.
Old 03-13-2015 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kfahmi
Dumb question here, but can you clarify what you mean?
You are under no obligation to accept any changes to your schedule after you've checked in for an assigned pairing (unless RDY is assigned), or while you're not on a RAP. If you check in for a PM 4 day trip and and hour later they start blowing up your phone wanting you to accept a 515AM show on your next set of reserve days you don't have to accept it. Let it go. It will vanish eventually, they're just seeing if you will bite.

Or a standup, or a red eye...exc. If the EFB locks you out unless you accept changes they can have even more control over your life than they already do. At least with the current setup they have to at least halfway make up their mind at least a small time in advance. With this system they could constantly change your assignments giving you min rest and turing everyone into 24 hour reserves. AM and PM would be out the window even more than it already is.

Then there's the issues with the lineholders. 30 hour overnights, turns getting added on MDG days, exc.

SAPA should be asking for the moon if they're even considering this.
Old 03-13-2015 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
SAPA should be asking for the moon if they're even considering this.
JP is gonna roll over on this and stick our taters in the air. He wants a corner office in the worst way, sad thing is he won't get so much as a reach around for his Quisling efforts.
Old 03-13-2015 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
You are under no obligation to accept any changes to your schedule after you've checked in for an assigned pairing (unless RDY is assigned), or while you're not on a RAP. If you check in for a PM 4 day trip and and hour later they start blowing up your phone wanting you to accept a 515AM show on your next set of reserve days you don't have to accept it. Let it go. It will vanish eventually, they're just seeing if you will bite.

Or a standup, or a red eye...exc. If the EFB locks you out unless you accept changes they can have even more control over your life than they already do. At least with the current setup they have to at least halfway make up their mind at least a small time in advance. With this system they could constantly change your assignments giving you min rest and turing everyone into 24 hour reserves. AM and PM would be out the window even more than it already is.

Then there's the issues with the lineholders. 30 hour overnights, turns getting added on MDG days, exc.

SAPA should be asking for the moon if they're even considering this.
Sad thing is, they are not. They're willing to trade it for the 1-2-3 policy. 1 hour extra pay for reflow within daily footprint, 2 hours if outside daily footprint, and 3 hours outside pairing footprint. Oh, and the first 2 are also MANDATORY.
Old 03-13-2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
JP is gonna roll over on this and stick our taters in the air. He wants a corner office in the worst way, sad thing is he won't get so much as a reach around for his Quisling efforts.
Can we call MM in from the bullpen to handle this one?
Old 03-13-2015 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
Can we call MM in from the bullpen to handle this one?
He got too burnt out from being undermined during his tenure, I think he is done fighting for now. Wish he could have stayed.
Old 03-13-2015 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by velosnow
He got too burnt out from being undermined during his tenure, I think he is done fighting for now. Wish he could have stayed.
Yeah that seems to happen to all the good SAPA reps right??

Anyone who gives a damn and tries to make things better gets burned out and quits SAPA or SW. We have 2 reps that I can think of now that actually listen to the group and try to do the right thing. Oh well, I guess when the brewing chitstorm (TM CCB) hits high enough on the seniority list, it will be too late.
Goodbye bidding and hello showing up at the airport and spinning the wheel of reflow!! Those extra two hours will be awesome on those rare times they make it on my check. It's not like we ever have payroll issues around here.
Old 03-14-2015 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
I'm curious what ASA/XJT discussions they are having in regards to the EFB. Since our current president isn't as interested in having discussions with the sister MEC's as our previous one was, I don't imagine he has reached out to them. I don't need to ask, but I am sure that they do not have to be notified via EFB in their MOU.



I think it is a great idea to throw some vague pay guidelines in the EFB proposal since the company needs this and the pilot group will once again roll over. We don't have clear guidelines on cancels, and those that haven't had to deal with CS shenanigans for the past 8 or so years (SAPA EB) just think that CS will play nice. Based on the way CS treats reserves, all line holders just became reserves for an extra hour or two. I sure wish we had the ability and tools to tell the company no, or at least get something in return.

For the ERJ side of xjt (don't know if it's the same on the CRJ side), they cannot use the EFB for any notification.
Old 03-14-2015 | 08:46 AM
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Regarding the IAH base, is 100% of the flying done with the 700s?
How long before a new hire can hold a line there?
Thanks!
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