Upgradezzz are down to 4yrs kiddo. Hopefully you wont need any medical treatment while at MESA. Their packages are weaker than a room full of B. Jenners.

 

As someone who has worked at both places I must say unless you saved a ton of money from your last job, the pay difference is huge! In my first 2 years at Skywest I would say I made about $20,000 more than my first two at Mesa.

 

I think people comparing the two are banking of a quicker upgrade at Mesa. Never bank of an upgrade. Rumor I heard is that United is sueing mesa for their use of the 175s, apparently using parts from some to fix others and therefore not utiliIng the fleet. It's just what I heard maybe someone can confirm,
My point is flying anywhere can leave in a hurry so never bank on a upgrsde, bank on QOL

 

While I wouldn't put it past MESA to pull those shenanigans, I doubt that's happening. I believe 175's are under warranty/parts from Embraer being new and all

 

You're exactly right L2R, that rumor of lawsuit has been flying around IAH for a year or so and namely from your sister airline.FWIW The planes are brand spanking new...not too much to scrap as of yet.

 

How is QOL at SKW right now? Isn't there a whole new thread about how bad it is right now? QOL, just like upgradezzz, can decrease/increase in a hurry also. It increased at Mesa in the last few years. I think the opposite is true at SKW. But the former mesa employees who came over to skw won't ever change their opinion of how bad Mesa is based on it's past, and they plug their ears and scream and yell that they are the best.

Also, I don't think people necessarily banked on a quick upgrade, but rather used known facts at the time as part of the decision making and calculations. Joining the largest regional pilot group, at a company that has a bunch of 200s, is a lot riskier than one that, at least at the time, is growing steadily...at least in my opinion. But banking on anything in the aviation industry is always a risk. Banking on which major to go to is a risk. No one is safe in this industry until the day you retire. If you think SKW is immune you are delusional and/or blinded by your pride in your decision.

You guys need to realize that skywest isn't the best choice for some people, myself and most people I started with at Mesa included. For some it's a great choice. I know it's hard to accept, but you shouldn't relish in a hatefest of another airline where people are actually happy and life is relatively good...not real classy, especially when the trash talking is about stuff that happened in years past or just isn't true. At the end of the day, we will probably work for the same company in a few years. I don't plan on sticking around the regionals for long...and I hope you guys don't either. At the end of the day no one cares which farm you were an indentured servant on. They all grow the same corn.

 

What's the DOH of most junior captain now?

 

1/31/2011 - Starts class in April

 

No one is immune from a recession. It will hit 50 seaters before it hits larger RJs though, unless oil gets pummeled, which isn't out of the question in the short term. I don't plan on working at Mesa long enough to enjoy a downturn here. If something major happens (9/11, other macro events) in my first few years, I'd leave this industry altogether before I would suffer at any regional for years.

The great JO? No, he's hated by most. No one is defending JO or the cheapness with which he runs Mesa, or our crappy bankruptcy contract, or the fact that we don't have near the quality of good looking FAs that you have. But at least his pilot group isn't complaining about QOL. This shouldn't be a ****ing match over which regional is better. No regional is good. The one that you can live in base with is the only okay regional, and even then it's a temp job and a means to an end. Or it should be anyway. But human nature makes people want to defend and justify their decisions, so these stupid debates (mud slinging fests?) continue ad infinitum.

 

Hate to break it to you, but the margins on the CRJ2 are much higher than the 7, 9 or the E175...regardless the price of fuel.