Originally Posted by disillusioned

Sorry if I struck a nerve. I usually try to keep emotion in check but it seriously is pretty frustrating to see nothing being fixed and even worse that SOME of our SAPA folks don't seem to see a problem.

I have actually applied for quite a few things like RSR and would love to be part of the solution. However, if you look at history it doesn't fair well for those that try to help. There was a certain person who was very vocal on our forums that tried to help from the inside by being a SAPA rep. Didn't seem to work out to well for him. Plus most that do work in SAPA get burned out and quit because they see how much the company really wants to fix things. Or they get the hell out ASAP because they know things will never get better. But sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the problems doesn't do any good either. How would you suggest I make effective change?

I'll try to post more sunshine and rainbows so that I don't come across so negative. Like the good news about our bonuses!! I get to split 6% of the profit with 3,500 of our pilots. See all that extra flying we are picking up and forcing me to fly is paying off!!

Originally Posted by Jvw700

I'm currently typing this from my "Malibu" bungalow! LOL! By the way my first career ended when I was 24 and started flying (late bloomer). I guess I just couldn't see myself continuing my 6 day work weeks doing all manual labor with only a few hours each night at home.... Went to an ALPA carrier for 4 years that got destroyed and is almost unrecognizable from when I started there! I would have stayed except things were so bad it forced a lot of us to start over! There are many who are under some false or misguided perceptions that ALPA is going to have any power to "fix" things.... It doesn't! Our MEC did a lot of big talk but were usually just puppets for management! Oh and the beloved ALPA national prez Mr. Moak wrote a letter exclusively for our pilot group saying how the concessionary contract was the best we were going to get for our "sector" ( FFD carrier) and we should just take the deal! I did get a magazine subscription though! Ask those guys over at eagle how much their "contract" is valued by management! G ahead and start a union drive again! I won't be voting for it, at least not ALPA! I could get behind something in house but My experience with ALPA has not been a good one!

Just don't be surprised when you still can't seem to get things done, even with the "real representation"....

Hey I've still got the old lanyard, if you like I can send it your way so you can represent during the drive!

Originally Posted by Nevets

ALPA, or any union, is only as good as its pilots and who they elect as their leadership. Not all ALPA properties are bad. So just because you had one bad experience doesn't mean that everyone at all ALPA properties have bad experiences.

Originally Posted by soakingpilot

whats the min credit i can drop down too while staying full time and whats the min user time per day i can use to make sure the min time is achieved?

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

I agree that there are certainly a fair amount of legit gripes here. But if you think THAT person was canned because he was trying to help, you are pretty clueless.

Originally Posted by disillusioned

...looking at last month it seems that even the super senior are getting the message that they are not valued or wanted here anymore.

Originally Posted by GATAM06

You are right, a whole 13 of the top 1000 left last month.