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elmetal 08-08-2016 09:45 AM


Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2176350)
Who is going to do all the UA flying with SkyWest pulling out?

We'll flow through it exactly as we have started ramping up MONTHS ago. Couple that with xjt and Mesa, and there's your answer

C172 08-08-2016 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2176352)
We'll flow through it exactly as we have started ramping up MONTHS ago. Couple that with xjt and Mesa, and there's your answer

So your saying SkyWest will cover all that flying by just flowing in and out of IAH? Where is United wanting MESAs 175s placed then for their network? Doesn't make a lot of sense...

elmetal 08-08-2016 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2176357)
So your saying SkyWest will cover all that flying by just flowing in and out of IAH? Where is United wanting MESAs 175s placed then for their network? Doesn't make a lot of sense...

They already have 175s there and continue to get them. Xjt is already there. They got all our Mexico flying this summer which was the bulk of iah flying. We can flow crews and planes through IAH Just like we've been doing for the past few months, just at a larger pace.

It's fine of you don't wanna believe it, it's what's happening. Besides, iah is an all 700 base. And we've lost over 30% of those planes in the last 5 months alone.

Is offline 08-08-2016 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by elmetal (Post 2176352)
We'll flow through it exactly as we have started ramping up MONTHS ago. Couple that with xjt and Mesa, and there's your answer

There will be no flowing thru once the 700's are gone from United at the end of the year. It's not only going to hurt Houston but all bases that the 700 operates on United.

N1234 08-08-2016 10:08 AM

This is all very simple. All but 7 or so of our UA 700s are going away and are being - partially - replaced by 175. If you look at the UA 10K you can figure out that pretty much all capacity up to the scope limit is spoken for.

UA has chosen Mesa for IAH. So there may be the eventual flow through from one of our other bases. But don't expect to see many 700's in UA colors by end of next year. And unless IAH will become a 175 base I don't see a scenario where it remains open.

On that note, do not expect to see much of our 700 capacity to resurface elsewhere. yes, some DL 700s are being replaced with of contract UA 700s but that is a left pocket right pocket game. Our overall 700 fleet will go down. For reference, look at our last two earning calls and the one time write off we took for early lease terminations. That's for 700s that we wish to place but apparently are not confident enough in so that we had to take a hit under SEC rules.

C172 08-08-2016 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2176362)
There will be no flowing thru once the 700's are gone from United at the end of the year. It's not only going to hurt Houston but all bases that the 700 operates on United.

Yeah United isn't renewing their 700's under new contracts right?

elmetal 08-08-2016 10:12 AM

Pretty sure aspen is the only reason they're not all going away.

N1234 08-08-2016 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2176322)
The relevance is I have a problem with the company paying to sponsor some foreign pilots visa when they refuse to pay fair wages.


I seriously doubt that the company sponsors visa's for foreign pilots. But I may be wrong.

You also make the - probably false - assumption that everyone with English as a second language is here on a visa or sponsored for a visa...

This is very simplistic and probably way off.....

N1234 08-08-2016 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by C172 (Post 2176365)
Yeah United isn't renewing their 700's under new contracts right?

They cannot. They are hitting the scope limit. No way for them to renew ...

C172 08-08-2016 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by N1234 (Post 2176370)
They cannot. They are hitting the scope limit. No way for them to renew ...

Ok, so where are MESAs 175s going?


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