Skywest v2.0
#7682
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: E-175 FO
Posts: 72
Come on. The 1500 hour rule has made us much safer....in the dark days before the rule lots of pilots went from a 172 to a BE1900 to build experience before going to a jet....a BE 1900 is 1729 more than a 172, so very dangerous.
Now, we young folks get to go from a 172 straight to a 175....the 175 is only 3 more than a 172, so its almost the same thing.
See? And people thought congress would screw this whole thing up. The rule seems to be working fine to me!
Now, we young folks get to go from a 172 straight to a 175....the 175 is only 3 more than a 172, so its almost the same thing.
See? And people thought congress would screw this whole thing up. The rule seems to be working fine to me!
#7685
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Originally Posted by Wingnut64
Howdy All,
I'm looking at returning to the 121 world after almost 11 years in the 135 helicopter business. I'm interested in Skywest because of the western domiciles, especially Boise. I currently live in Denver but plan to move to the Spokane area this summer.
Everything about Skywest looks pretty good to me, except the starting pay. Except for a $7500 bonus for type-rated new-hires (I have a CL65 type already from my former life) there doesn't appear to be any retention bonuses listed on the company website. What I did see on the website is this quote:
"SkyWest offers the best quality of life with over a dozen domiciles, upgrades in 2 years or less, excellent pay, profit sharing programs, bonuses and 401(k) match."
Can somebody tell me about the profit sharing, and bonuses they are talking about? It seems that many other regionals are promising $60k first year pay, but not Skywest. Any chance of that happening?
Finally, how long would it take to hold BOI, PDX, or SEA?
Thanks!
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There are 3 continuous employee/pilot bonus programs at SkyWest:
#1 (eligible after 1 year of service) Performance Rewards:
- earned by ALL SkyWest Airlines employees
- earned quarterly, paid quarterly following quarterly earnings announcement/conference call
- Company sets performance metrics and places a dollar value on their completion (or partial completion). Currently D0, A14, ACF, and "Customer Experience" (pax surveys from mainline partners). I just noticed that the baggage handling goal was removed
- I believe $501 per quarter can be earned if we achieve max goals
- I've never seen that, but it has been $225-$250/qtr or so for the last several years.
#2 (eligible after 2 years of service) Financial Rewards:
- earned by ALL SkyWest Airlines employees
- earned quarterly, paid quarterly following quarterly earnings announcement/conference call
- Individual's quarterly earnings are multiplied by the SkyWest Airlines' (NOT ,Inc.) Net Profit % to calculate a gross bonus amount. If you earn $10,000 in the quarter, SkyWest's net profit is 5%, you'd get $500
- The more you work, the bigger the bonus
#3 (eligible immediately) Pilot Profit Sharing:
- earned only by SkyWest PILOTS
- earned bi-annually, paid bi-annually (MAR/SEP) by policy-determined dates.
- Payout pool is currently 7% of SkyWest Airlines Net Profit not to be less than $6.3 million
- complicated calculations, but generally:
---individual credit hours are multiplied by 1.15 if you're a CA, .85 if you're an FO
---all company-wide pilot credit hours are added up for the period, and divided by individual credit hour factor
---multiply that number by the payout pool (7% NP or 6.3 million, whichever is higher)
- I have not been an FO since this started, but it's been worth about $1500 per payout for me.
- New TA increases % of NP and guaranteed pool
We seem to be constantly getting bonus payouts, which is nice. Currently, PR/FR FEB, MAY, JULY, OCTOBER and PPS MAR, SEP
As a 10+ year CA who works a fair amount more than average, these bonuses add up to a little less than $10k per year for me. Maybe an FO could chime in on theirs.
Originally Posted by Wingnut64
Howdy All,
I'm looking at returning to the 121 world after almost 11 years in the 135 helicopter business. I'm interested in Skywest because of the western domiciles, especially Boise. I currently live in Denver but plan to move to the Spokane area this summer.
Everything about Skywest looks pretty good to me, except the starting pay. Except for a $7500 bonus for type-rated new-hires (I have a CL65 type already from my former life) there doesn't appear to be any retention bonuses listed on the company website. What I did see on the website is this quote:
"SkyWest offers the best quality of life with over a dozen domiciles, upgrades in 2 years or less, excellent pay, profit sharing programs, bonuses and 401(k) match."
Can somebody tell me about the profit sharing, and bonuses they are talking about? It seems that many other regionals are promising $60k first year pay, but not Skywest. Any chance of that happening?
Finally, how long would it take to hold BOI, PDX, or SEA?
Thanks!
--------------------------------------------------------------
There are 3 continuous employee/pilot bonus programs at SkyWest:
#1 (eligible after 1 year of service) Performance Rewards:
- earned by ALL SkyWest Airlines employees
- earned quarterly, paid quarterly following quarterly earnings announcement/conference call
- Company sets performance metrics and places a dollar value on their completion (or partial completion). Currently D0, A14, ACF, and "Customer Experience" (pax surveys from mainline partners). I just noticed that the baggage handling goal was removed
- I believe $501 per quarter can be earned if we achieve max goals
- I've never seen that, but it has been $225-$250/qtr or so for the last several years.
#2 (eligible after 2 years of service) Financial Rewards:
- earned by ALL SkyWest Airlines employees
- earned quarterly, paid quarterly following quarterly earnings announcement/conference call
- Individual's quarterly earnings are multiplied by the SkyWest Airlines' (NOT ,Inc.) Net Profit % to calculate a gross bonus amount. If you earn $10,000 in the quarter, SkyWest's net profit is 5%, you'd get $500
- The more you work, the bigger the bonus
#3 (eligible immediately) Pilot Profit Sharing:
- earned only by SkyWest PILOTS
- earned bi-annually, paid bi-annually (MAR/SEP) by policy-determined dates.
- Payout pool is currently 7% of SkyWest Airlines Net Profit not to be less than $6.3 million
- complicated calculations, but generally:
---individual credit hours are multiplied by 1.15 if you're a CA, .85 if you're an FO
---all company-wide pilot credit hours are added up for the period, and divided by individual credit hour factor
---multiply that number by the payout pool (7% NP or 6.3 million, whichever is higher)
- I have not been an FO since this started, but it's been worth about $1500 per payout for me.
- New TA increases % of NP and guaranteed pool
We seem to be constantly getting bonus payouts, which is nice. Currently, PR/FR FEB, MAY, JULY, OCTOBER and PPS MAR, SEP
As a 10+ year CA who works a fair amount more than average, these bonuses add up to a little less than $10k per year for me. Maybe an FO could chime in on theirs.
#7687
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Joined APC: May 2017
Position: New hire 135 airline pilot
Posts: 25
Automated vs. not-so-automated vs. helicopter
I am a recently retired Army aviator looking to enter a regional 121 cockpit. My instrument time is mostly in UH-60 Blackhawks-the analog version (UH-60A). The latest posts in this thread seem a bit melodramatic. Is pushing buttons in a stable fixed-wing RJ really so difficult? Is flying the approach by hand truly that difficult? Honestly, after flying RW, these CRJ/ERJ posts have me a bit concerned- do they truly reflect the professional aviators in whom the public entrusts their lives? But then, I've never flown an RJ. I would love to hear some feedback from someone who has flown BOTH helos and RJs. Please, someone with maturity and experience, enlighten this "RJ padawan".
Thanks.
Thanks.
#7688
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined APC: Aug 2016
Position: CRJ Kapitän
Posts: 616
I don't know anyone who has flown both RW and an RJ, but at my old shop the crusty old Blackhawk commander flying Lear 35s was the best at it and the Lear is tougher to fly than an RJ....
Your ability to form an accurate mental model of the aircraft that you fly will largely determine your success.
Your ability to form an accurate mental model of the aircraft that you fly will largely determine your success.
#7689
I am a recently retired Army aviator looking to enter a regional 121 cockpit. My instrument time is mostly in UH-60 Blackhawks-the analog version (UH-60A). The latest posts in this thread seem a bit melodramatic. Is pushing buttons in a stable fixed-wing RJ really so difficult? Is flying the approach by hand truly that difficult? Honestly, after flying RW, these CRJ/ERJ posts have me a bit concerned- do they truly reflect the professional aviators in whom the public entrusts their lives? But then, I've never flown an RJ. I would love to hear some feedback from someone who has flown BOTH helos and RJs. Please, someone with maturity and experience, enlighten this "RJ padawan".
Thanks.
Thanks.
Pushing buttons is easy, as long as you push the right ones in the right order, otherwise it gets difficult.
Lots of fling wing guys around nowadays, you'll do fine.
#7690
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Position: Former Airline Captain
Posts: 48
I am a recently retired Army aviator looking to enter a regional 121 cockpit. My instrument time is mostly in UH-60 Blackhawks-the analog version (UH-60A). The latest posts in this thread seem a bit melodramatic. Is pushing buttons in a stable fixed-wing RJ really so difficult? Is flying the approach by hand truly that difficult? Honestly, after flying RW, these CRJ/ERJ posts have me a bit concerned- do they truly reflect the professional aviators in whom the public entrusts their lives? But then, I've never flown an RJ. I would love to hear some feedback from someone who has flown BOTH helos and RJs. Please, someone with maturity and experience, enlighten this "RJ padawan".
Thanks.
Thanks.
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