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#2681
You missed it.... After the standing bid closed last month, there were not any ORD FO's on the 175 that didn't get there requested transfer out. Even currently, there are not enough ORD 175 guys with bids to leave that would even help the issue with reserve numbers out West.
As the bid stands today, only a handful of guys have a bid to leave ORD for another domicile. So unless we start forcing guys out of domicile we won't have proper staffing in October in the other domiciles.
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As the bid stands today, only a handful of guys have a bid to leave ORD for another domicile. So unless we start forcing guys out of domicile we won't have proper staffing in October in the other domiciles.
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Oh right, because if they had, reserve staffing would've been perfect at the time.
#2682
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I've asked the same question for months, why 40% reserve staffing in ORD on 175 but the rest of the ERJ domicile are below min reserves months after month. Well last standing bid, every single person that wanted out of ORD on the ERJ was awarded elsewhere and got out. I don't think the issue is with SGU, ORD 175 guys don't want to transfer out. The only fix is to force guys out of ORD who don't currently have a standing bid to leave.
The past few new hire classes aren't even touching ORD on the ERJ. The needs are all West coast.
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The past few new hire classes aren't even touching ORD on the ERJ. The needs are all West coast.
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Some want to fly, others are fine staying on reserve and not fly at all. But SGU doesn't care what the pilots want to do. I agree that they want to keep the reserves low so you have to call in and burn user time to get any time at home.
Now to finish my line and figure out how I am going to fit 48 hours of flying in with my 9 days of pre-assignments, since my line won't finish without awarding me 90 hours of flying. I just have to figure out which of our bases I fill like sitting in for 4 hours in between flights. Or figure out which trip I am going to bid that I will call in for to use what little user time I have left.
#2683
12 months ago SkyWest was trying to position to get flying from UA in Chicago which fell through and ended up going to Mesa and Republic. So the idea that SkyWest magically said lets put 50% reserve staffing in Chicago and not use the guys and just lay them to sit at home was most likely not the thought process.
It's funny you think that way, 12 months ago LAX didn't exist. PDX had barely and 175's and SEA had only a few as well. We got DL flying announced a year ago and Just 3 months ago finally got official word SEA and LAX is where they were going and we still don't know how many are going to LAX and when. So how sir do we magically predict the future and put pilots places where we don't yet know for sure we will need them????
I'll wait.
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#2684
12 months ago SkyWest was trying to position to get flying from UA in Chicago which fell through and ended up going to Mesa and Republic. So the idea that SkyWest magically said lets put 50% reserve staffing in Chicago and not use the guys and just lay them to sit at home was most likely not the thought process.
It's funny you think that way, 12 months ago LAX didn't exist. PDX had barely and 175's and SEA had only a few as well. We got DL flying announced a year ago and Just 3 months ago finally got official word SEA and LAX is where they were going and we still don't know how many are going to LAX and when. So how sir do we magically predict the future and put pilots places where we don't yet know for sure we will need them????
I'll wait.
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It's funny you think that way, 12 months ago LAX didn't exist. PDX had barely and 175's and SEA had only a few as well. We got DL flying announced a year ago and Just 3 months ago finally got official word SEA and LAX is where they were going and we still don't know how many are going to LAX and when. So how sir do we magically predict the future and put pilots places where we don't yet know for sure we will need them????
I'll wait.
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Don't be so naive.
Or did you not think they knew about Houston closing when they initially sent the secret email about losing Mexico flying ? Which only came after months of rumors being confirmed via uniteds reservation system and Mesa crews.
Your can't possibly be that naive.
#2685
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You honestly think they didn't know sea and lax a year ago?
Don't be so naive.
Or did you not think they knew about Houston closing when they initially sent the secret email about losing Mexico flying ? Which only came after months of rumors being confirmed via uniteds reservation system and Mesa crews.
Your can't possibly be that naive.
Don't be so naive.
Or did you not think they knew about Houston closing when they initially sent the secret email about losing Mexico flying ? Which only came after months of rumors being confirmed via uniteds reservation system and Mesa crews.
Your can't possibly be that naive.
We have a certain group of about 22 pilots that make all the excuses in the world for SGU. They don't need any help.
#2686
You honestly think they didn't know sea and lax a year ago?
Don't be so naive.
Or did you not think they knew about Houston closing when they initially sent the secret email about losing Mexico flying ? Which only came after months of rumors being confirmed via uniteds reservation system and Mesa crews.
Your can't possibly be that naive.
Don't be so naive.
Or did you not think they knew about Houston closing when they initially sent the secret email about losing Mexico flying ? Which only came after months of rumors being confirmed via uniteds reservation system and Mesa crews.
Your can't possibly be that naive.
IAH is not a part of this discussion. SkyWest may have had an idea where the DL flying was going but anybody with half a brain knows at the regional level things are subject to change at a moments notice and we are completely at the mercy of where mainline says that flying goes.
But while we are on it, SEA and PDX reserve staffing isn't below mins like SFO / LAX/ DEN. It's the other UA 175 bases that we have that don't have proper staffing. Hmmm maybe because a shift in where that UA flying went as opposed to where we thought the majority of it would be???
According to your elementary logic, SkyWest said Eff it. Let's blatantly have terrible QOL for a certain percentage of our pilot group while we let 50+ qualified guys sit at home not used.
You should go to SGU and fix all these problems because you seem to have answers and know the future.
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#2687
Quick peak at the ORD transfer shows about 10 that want to transfer out west. Or we could let the pilots transition that are already out west that want the 175. Or we could do it "the way we always have" and give Delta benefits to ALL 175 pilots and you would see the 175 go way senior out west.
Some want to fly, others are fine staying on reserve and not fly at all. But SGU doesn't care what the pilots want to do. I agree that they want to keep the reserves low so you have to call in and burn user time to get any time at home.
Now to finish my line and figure out how I am going to fit 48 hours of flying in with my 9 days of pre-assignments, since my line won't finish without awarding me 90 hours of flying. I just have to figure out which of our bases I fill like sitting in for 4 hours in between flights. Or figure out which trip I am going to bid that I will call in for to use what little user time I have left.
Some want to fly, others are fine staying on reserve and not fly at all. But SGU doesn't care what the pilots want to do. I agree that they want to keep the reserves low so you have to call in and burn user time to get any time at home.
Now to finish my line and figure out how I am going to fit 48 hours of flying in with my 9 days of pre-assignments, since my line won't finish without awarding me 90 hours of flying. I just have to figure out which of our bases I fill like sitting in for 4 hours in between flights. Or figure out which trip I am going to bid that I will call in for to use what little user time I have left.
Another issue is... DVR had 8 openings in SFO for September. Most of those went to CRJ transitions. So it will take 2 months before the domicile actually gets the compliment it needs. Had 8 currently qualified guys got the award staffing would actually have improved. But half the original awards were transitions. After that several new hires were put in there but they are still on IOE so it seems to take several months to catch up coupled with we are taking planes each month. I'm afraid this is a cycle we may never catch up on with the amount of guys leaving. Who knows???
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#2688
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IAH is not a part of this discussion. SkyWest may have had an idea where the DL flying was going but anybody with half a brain knows at the regional level things are subject to change at a moments notice and we are completely at the mercy of where mainline says that flying goes.
But while we are on it, SEA and PDX reserve staffing isn't below mins like SFO / LAX/ DEN. It's the other UA 175 bases that we have that don't have proper staffing. Hmmm maybe because a shift in where that UA flying went as opposed to where we thought the majority of it would be???
According to your elementary logic, SkyWest said Eff it. Let's blatantly have terrible QOL for a certain percentage of our pilot group while we let 50+ qualified guys sit at home not used.
You should go to SGU and fix all these problems because you seem to have answers and know the future.
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But while we are on it, SEA and PDX reserve staffing isn't below mins like SFO / LAX/ DEN. It's the other UA 175 bases that we have that don't have proper staffing. Hmmm maybe because a shift in where that UA flying went as opposed to where we thought the majority of it would be???
According to your elementary logic, SkyWest said Eff it. Let's blatantly have terrible QOL for a certain percentage of our pilot group while we let 50+ qualified guys sit at home not used.
You should go to SGU and fix all these problems because you seem to have answers and know the future.
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Don't hold your breath with SGU being proactive on anything. They could do a temporary transfer as short as a month until they get the flying, or use the planes that they have staffing for to cover all the extra flying they won't turn down.
I can't wait until we open DTW so we don't have all those 4 hour sits in DTW. Oh wait. We already have DTW open and it hasn't done anything to improve pairings. Plus now we just have those same long sits in MSP, DEN, SLC and SEA. Weird that it makes the duty day EXACTLY 12 hours. No premium pay for you!!
#2689
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12 months ago SkyWest was trying to position to get flying from UA in Chicago which fell through and ended up going to Mesa and Republic. So the idea that SkyWest magically said lets put 50% reserve staffing in Chicago and not use the guys and just lay them to sit at home was most likely not the thought process.
It's funny you think that way, 12 months ago LAX didn't exist. PDX had barely and 175's and SEA had only a few as well. We got DL flying announced a year ago and Just 3 months ago finally got official word SEA and LAX is where they were going and we still don't know how many are going to LAX and when. So how sir do we magically predict the future and put pilots places where we don't yet know for sure we will need them????
I'll wait.
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It's funny you think that way, 12 months ago LAX didn't exist. PDX had barely and 175's and SEA had only a few as well. We got DL flying announced a year ago and Just 3 months ago finally got official word SEA and LAX is where they were going and we still don't know how many are going to LAX and when. So how sir do we magically predict the future and put pilots places where we don't yet know for sure we will need them????
I'll wait.
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