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Old 10-07-2016 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TooMuchAl
I am currently a CFI/MEI @ around 850 hrs, I just wrapped up an interview with a part 135 operator flying SIC in a KingAir350. At the end of the interview and job offer the HR guy made some confusing statements. Looking for some clarity before I accept. He said that their OP Specs did not require an SIC but their insurance did. According to the FARs 61.51 I can't log that time as SIC even with a type rating because the KA350 is certificated under single pilot operations. My next question to him is then how do I build time? He said most of their pilots were MEI's and that I could log PIC as the sole manipulator of the controls. Then I asked if any of their captains had the "Need an SIC" endorsement on their certificates, he said no.

My question, will Skywest or any 121 operator allow me to count that total time and dual received towards an ATP? I get that it is multi turbine time but I have a super sweet CFI job that I dont want to leave if I'm just going to have to make up all of those hours that wont be counted.
It's not as much a question for SkyWest or any airline as it is the FAA. The resulting answer has always been a mixed bag of responses depending on who you talk to. The whole dual received schtick usually flies if it's something like 20-30 hours, could legitimately call that learning a new aircraft. Anything significantly over that and people start questioning whether or not it was actually "training". Alternatively, if they have a 200 or a 90 or if they gave you a PIC type on the 350 I believe you could log sole manipulator PIC at least on repo/part 91 legs.

But that's just my understanding of it.
Old 10-07-2016 | 12:24 PM
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It's not as much a question for SkyWest or any airline as it is the FAA. The resulting answer has always been a mixed bag of responses depending on who you talk to. The whole dual received schtick usually flies if it's something like 20-30 hours, could legitimately call that learning a new aircraft. Anything significantly over that and people start questioning whether or not it was actually "training". Alternatively, if they have a 200 or a 90 or if they gave you a PIC type on the 350 I believe you could log sole manipulator PIC at least on repo/part 91 legs.

But that's just my understanding of it.
Thanks for the info. Yeah, the whole dual received thing does sound shady. I'll have to do more research to find out what I can and cannot log. It sounds great for experience building but not for building hours. I'll have to clarify with company as to whether or not I'm getting the actual type rating or just company training. I'm gonna guess it's the latter since there is no training contract.
Old 10-07-2016 | 12:36 PM
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Interviewing with Skywest this month. I am a current CL-65 FO at another regional. Few questions to you current SW drivers.

Bases LAX, PHX, ORD, DTW

1) How long would it take to get one of the following bases?
2) How long will it take to hold a line?
3) How long is upgrade?
4) Which aircraft are flown and for which major?

Thanks for your help.
Old 10-07-2016 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TooMuchAl
I am currently a CFI/MEI @ around 850 hrs, I just wrapped up an interview with a part 135 operator flying SIC in a KingAir350. At the end of the interview and job offer the HR guy made some confusing statements. Looking for some clarity before I accept. He said that their OP Specs did not require an SIC but their insurance did. According to the FARs 61.51 I can't log that time as SIC even with a type rating because the KA350 is certificated under single pilot operations. My next question to him is then how do I build time? He said most of their pilots were MEI's and that I could log PIC as the sole manipulator of the controls. Then I asked if any of their captains had the "Need an SIC" endorsement on their certificates, he said no.

My question, will Skywest or any 121 operator allow me to count that total time and dual received towards an ATP? I get that it is multi turbine time but I have a super sweet CFI job that I dont want to leave if I'm just going to have to make up all of those hours that wont be counted.
If you could do it part-time for 20-30hrs I'd say do it.
Everybody in the hiring depts. knows what it is so your not really going to gain by going there.
I'd stick it out at the CFI gig, you'll be getting called soon.
Old 10-07-2016 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mdcny
Interviewing with Skywest this month. I am a current CL-65 FO at another regional. Few questions to you current SW drivers.

Bases LAX, PHX, ORD, DTW

1) How long would it take to get one of the following bases?
2) How long will it take to hold a line?
3) How long is upgrade?
4) Which aircraft are flown and for which major?

Thanks for your help.
1) ORD and DTW right out of training or by being done with IOE, LAX junior FO is 8/4 hire date, PHX 8/12.

2) DTW a month or two, the rest would vary a lot. But with upgrades at 2 years 2 months everything is attainable pretty quick.

3) answered above

4) Alaska just switched to all 175s the rest is a mix I believe
Old 10-07-2016 | 06:31 PM
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What am I doing in SJU?
What does anyone do in SJU? Relax on the beach with a Piña colada
Old 10-08-2016 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ncsean
1) ORD and DTW right out of training or by being done with IOE, LAX junior FO is 8/4 hire date, PHX 8/12.

2) DTW a month or two, the rest would vary a lot. But with upgrades at 2 years 2 months everything is attainable pretty quick.

3) answered above

4) Alaska just switched to all 175s the rest is a mix I believe
Thanks. Sounds like LAX and PHX are fairly quick to get also. Looks like 2 months or so. Looking to go on the CRJ side.
Old 10-08-2016 | 06:05 AM
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Thanks. Sounds like LAX and PHX are fairly quick to get also. Looks like 2 months or so. Looking to go on the CRJ side.
I would tell them you have no preference, first available. Make sure they give you the one year seat lock, not two. Then switch after a year if you want. You'll have more flexibility and more seniority but just taking the first class. Unless you specifically want to live in SLC that only has the CRJ right now.
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What are the current reserve times for ORD on different equipment? Is the crj the best bird to request if ORD is where you want to be based? Thx.
Old 10-08-2016 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by slinger
What are the current reserve times for ORD on different equipment? Is the crj the best bird to request if ORD is where you want to be based? Thx.


ERJ reserve in ORD is 1 year +, CRJ reserve is pretty much nonexistent


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