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#3701
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From: I pilot
When i went through training, one of the training manangers came to our class and said that there was a guy who got hired with 1500 hours. He was part way through training and they looked at his logbooks and he logged a lot of SIC in single pilot operations. He was essentially 1000 hours short.
If you are coming from a 135 that requires a SIC in the opspecs, you will he fine.
If you are coming from a 135 that requires a SIC in the opspecs, you will he fine.
#3702
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The difference is that you were at a company that was approved by the faa to have a two pilot crew, where the other guy is looking at a company that is not approved by the faa for a two man crew but only required by insurance. He "can't" log sic in that aircraft, but that doesn't mean that people don't log the time anyways and avoid the conversation later.
I'll let him decide if that's the right thing to do or not.
#3704
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When i went through training, one of the training manangers came to our class and said that there was a guy who got hired with 1500 hours. He was part way through training and they looked at his logbooks and he logged a lot of SIC in single pilot operations. He was essentially 1000 hours short.
If you are coming from a 135 that requires a SIC in the opspecs, you will he fine.
If you are coming from a 135 that requires a SIC in the opspecs, you will he fine.
135 carrying passengers under IFR requires an SIC because of the regulations not the operations specifications....just to be clear. Doesn't matter if the plane is a single pilot type certificate. The opspec you find for those operators is an option to use an autopilot in lieu of an SIC. The operator can choose to exercise this option, or keep the SIC, up to them.
If it is under vfr, like mokulele often is, then the SIC must be required by the ops spec in order for him to legally log SIC, or so I'm told. I'm not sure what the opspec is called, by none of my friends at mokulele have had trouble validating their hours. They all upgrade at 1200 using at least some of those SIC hours to contribute to the total time.
There are not many part 91 operations where an SIC is required, as far as I understand.
9 or less commuter under IFR (surf air, boutique, seaport?, cape air, air choice one, etc) should all be fine. Nobody from my shop has been turned away because of this.
§135.101 Second in command required under IFR.
Except as provided in §135.105, no person may operate an aircraft carrying passengers under IFR unless there is a second in command in the aircraft.
See, not an OPSPEC, this is a FAR, your hours are protected by this reg.
#3706
So from what I gather, if I don't request a specific airframe then the seat lock is a shorter time than it would be if I did make a specific request. That being said, at this time what would a new hire likely be assigned?
#3707
OpSpecs are company specific, and according to the original poster the company that he was looking at going was one that required only a single pilot per that company's manual. Without knowing exactly which operator he is considering it's hard to know what the situation is, though we can gather it is vfr only. Maybe that company just needs to find new insurance.
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OpSpecs are company specific, and according to the original poster the company that he was looking at going was one that required only a single pilot per that company's manual. Without knowing exactly which operator he is considering it's hard to know what the situation is, though we can gather it is vfr only. Maybe that company just needs to find new insurance.
For example "C055" : derived alternate mins.
C055 is in the opspec's of several, if not most, air carriers.
If there is an opspec for SIC required under VFR, I'm sure somebody knows the listing for it.
#3709
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From: PIC LR35
Curious...
If I applied today when could I expect to get an interview? Class date?
There doesn't seem to be too many career/interview events listed on their calendar for this month. At least none that I can attend...
If I applied today when could I expect to get an interview? Class date?
There doesn't seem to be too many career/interview events listed on their calendar for this month. At least none that I can attend...
#3710
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From: Q400, B-737
Just cruising by, but I'll offer this as an anecdote...
Thirty years ago or so, when I was working lineservice during high school on the weekend at our local airport, my boss came to me and asked if I wanted to sit right seat in the Citation for a day. What? Who, me? SURE!!!
It turned out they couldn't get a hold of their normal standby pilot. It was a Citation I, (CE-500, certified for single-pilot operations), they didn't need me, but it would've kept the insurance people, (and pax), happy.
The standby pilot eventually showed up, (this was waaay before cellphones), and they left without me. I was crushed.
That is what off-the-cuff pt.135 is like.
So, would you have taken my time seriously? (I didn't even have a license yet, it might have been "dual given".)
How hard up is OO HR in filling classes? That's the question.
My take? It'd be great exposure and experience, but if you're just there to satisfy their insurer, well...
Thirty years ago or so, when I was working lineservice during high school on the weekend at our local airport, my boss came to me and asked if I wanted to sit right seat in the Citation for a day. What? Who, me? SURE!!!
It turned out they couldn't get a hold of their normal standby pilot. It was a Citation I, (CE-500, certified for single-pilot operations), they didn't need me, but it would've kept the insurance people, (and pax), happy.
The standby pilot eventually showed up, (this was waaay before cellphones), and they left without me. I was crushed.
That is what off-the-cuff pt.135 is like.
So, would you have taken my time seriously? (I didn't even have a license yet, it might have been "dual given".)
How hard up is OO HR in filling classes? That's the question.
My take? It'd be great exposure and experience, but if you're just there to satisfy their insurer, well...
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