Skywest v2.0
#8701
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 44,888
Likes: 684
From: Engines Turn or People Swim
Maybe you were the exception to the rule.
That's the whole problem. Regionals need something better, guidance, standardization, and cooperation. Since the regionals exist to whipsaw labor, that labor needs something that does more than collecting 2% and going with the flow.
See Above.
I'm was no sapa fanboy, or cool-aid drinker either. Just saying alpa as an ALTERNATIVE to sapa is weak sauce (at a regional).
And everybody knows a regional group cannot afford an independent union.
Plus there's the whole common-carrier / SLI issue if SKW certified.
You don't know what you are taking about. No one tells any MEC what to negotiate for, period. National provides attorneys and other specialist. But there are no pilots, other than those on that properties seniority list, that tell anyone anything as far as guidance on what to negotiate for.
And everybody knows a regional group cannot afford an independent union.
Plus there's the whole common-carrier / SLI issue if SKW certified.
#8702
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
The ALPA fanboy is back. We have 45 new planes and you are closing shop. How well did they serve you? If anything, they were a big reason why you’re shrinking drastically. Get over it.
#8703
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
They served us well until Inc came along and started mucking things up with the money losing contracts they negotiated for us, not to mention the buffoons they sent to Atlanta who knew nothing of running a lemonade stand, let alone an airline.
#8704
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
I’m not going to beat a dead horse; pilots are experts at doing that.
#8705
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
By all means, let's beat this dead horse. SkyWest, Inc. is the reason we're winding down, not ALPA. By your logic, all unionized carriers should be shutting down, and replaced with non-union airlines that can have their labor "agreements" changed at the whim of management's desires. ALPA isn't perfect (if they were, you'd only see ALPA folks make it past the hiring boards are ALPA majors), especially at the national level, but our local folks do a great job of serving the pilot group, as best they can.
#8706
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
By all means, let's beat this dead horse. SkyWest, Inc. is the reason we're winding down, not ALPA. By your logic, all unionized carriers should be shutting down, and replaced with non-union airlines that can have their labor "agreements" changed at the whim of management's desires. ALPA isn't perfect (if they were, you'd only see ALPA folks make it past the hiring boards are ALPA majors), especially at the national level, but our local folks do a great job of serving the pilot group, as best they can.
#8707
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 846
Likes: 0
Maybe you were the exception to the rule.
That's the whole problem. Regionals need something better, guidance, standardization, and cooperation. Since the regionals exist to whipsaw labor, that labor needs something that does more than collecting 2% and going with the flow.
See Above.
I'm was no sapa fanboy, or cool-aid drinker either. Just saying alpa as an ALTERNATIVE to sapa is weak sauce (at a regional).
And everybody knows a regional group cannot afford an independent union.
Plus there's the whole common-carrier / SLI issue if SKW certified.
That's the whole problem. Regionals need something better, guidance, standardization, and cooperation. Since the regionals exist to whipsaw labor, that labor needs something that does more than collecting 2% and going with the flow.
See Above.
I'm was no sapa fanboy, or cool-aid drinker either. Just saying alpa as an ALTERNATIVE to sapa is weak sauce (at a regional).
And everybody knows a regional group cannot afford an independent union.
Plus there's the whole common-carrier / SLI issue if SKW certified.
Look, I've been non-union and union. I've been on the mec and just a line pilot. I had a lot of misconceptions also, especially on unions in general. I'm telling you, it's not what you think. Even ALPA, with all its warts, is better than no union.
By the way, if you don't like ALPA, that's fine, and you don't think you can go independent (still better than nothing and gets rid of the true conflict of interest), then there is also the IBT. There are no excuses at this point.
One last thing, don't ignore the major part of what ALPA does. It's not negotiating contracts! It's the safety and security advocacy and the pilot representation aspect from dealing with management, government agencies, medical, and professional in all aspects of a pilots life.
Ok, go ahead and make personal attacks on me if that's all you have. I'm being served ok, by the way, nothing to get over. But the reason why this place is shrinking is because of the ineptitude of the CPAs negotiated by inc.
Expressjet was not going anywhere. At the time, xjt flew 244 aircraft for continental and there was no way that was going to go away. Just as delta didn't let republic nor pinnacle go away. And they had a lot less aircraft, collectively, flying for them. If it wasn't Skywest, it would've been someone else, probably, continental. This Skywest buyout had nothing to do with any union. If Skywest cared about their own employees, maybe things would be different. But they are fiduciary bound to their shareholders first. Something that a union provides their members.
#8709
But, Brad Holt was about the best COO in the industry. When he left I took it as a sign of your imminent demise.
#8710
Ich bin Pilot von Beruf
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: CRJ Kapitän
Screw ExpressJet. Those airplanes belong at SkyWest. Just saying what everyone of us is thinking Trump-style.
All your base are belong to us. Kudos to anyone who understood the sci-fi reference there.
All your base are belong to us. Kudos to anyone who understood the sci-fi reference there.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post



