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Never? You can’t be serious?
Deja vu of people saying it won’t happen on the CRJ.
You’re right there will be a time that there will be more transitions than upgrades, especially if they figure out the Delta benefits, but if the current demand for pilots keeps up the upgrade time will drop. Eventually like it is in the CRJ...upgrade as soon as you legally can, bypassing those who are still building time.

word302

10-31-2017 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2457758)

I think you will see more transitions then you will see upgrades. My guess is it never dips below 3 years.

30 planes going to ORD? I highly doubt you are going to see more transitions than upgrades.

WaterRooster

10-31-2017 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by word302 (Post 2457797)

30 planes going to ORD? I highly doubt you are going to see more transitions than upgrades.

Add the delta benefits... there are A LOT of people waiting for those. 175 is the retirement plane for most of the lifers

Nordopilot

10-31-2017 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sn00p (Post 2457575)

I see it as about 3.1. I think the person you’re looking at is a cadet and that is not their bidding seniority.

Not sure where the 2 years 10 months is coming from though.

Yeah realized I was told bad info. Should have checked it myself! Thanks for correcting.

Cefiro

10-31-2017 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2457801)

Add the delta benefits... there are A LOT of people waiting for those. 175 is the retirement plane for most of the lifers

This.....if ORD get Delta benefits expect a lot of ORD CAs to transition.

amcnd

10-31-2017 06:00 AM

I heard they are already talking about lowering thr Upgrade criteria.. to what I don’t know.. but it will happen. And upgrade on the ERJ will drop. most likely to the fresh 1.5-2 year CRJ Upgrades being seat locked being ERJ bypassed..

LAX2MSP

10-31-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2457843)

We are having a ton of the people with restricted ATPs getting held up by the company mandated hour requirement.

TimetoClimb

10-31-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2457801)

Add the delta benefits... there are A LOT of people waiting for those. 175 is the retirement plane for most of the lifers

I've heard those are coming q1 2018.
Even so the movement of these captains will drive progression across the seniority lists. They leave behind the good CRJ spots and make the CRJ upgrade more appealing. This is probably what is happening in LAX with all the transitions to ERJ SAN. Granted it may never be as good a qol but it will be better than the dtw/ord openings that many guys the heebie-jeebies.

word302

10-31-2017 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Cefiro (Post 2457810)

This.....if ORD get Delta benefits expect a lot of ORD CAs to transition.

How many lifers do you guys think are in ORD? 30 airplanes means 180 captains roughly. It’s not really hard math.

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