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Old 12-02-2017 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jetprop420
When we do the CBTs, do we "go home" for a specific time or hang in SLC?
They gave us the option to go home but strongly encouraged that you stay, as do I. They don't really factor in travel time to the time they give you to complete the 40+ CBTs..
Old 12-02-2017 | 09:18 PM
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Why is SW so short of FOs currently? I know they are going to get 45 new Erj-175s next year. I read something where they just added 27 CRJs? Is that correct?
Old 12-02-2017 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by word302
That’s not how it works. CBTs give you the baseline of knowledge. Ground school is still very systems-heavy.


Not anymore it’s not actually. Strictly operational. On the CRJ side of the house. Just like ERJ is mainly operational. They aren’t diving deep into systems at all. At all. As of November. New class footprint


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Old 12-02-2017 | 10:17 PM
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It’s not FOs specifically, but CA and FOs on the CRJ. Anyone bidding below 25-30% in base is being awarded lots of monthly flying.
It’s more of a massive growth pain than an attrition pain. SkyW grew by 50 pilots last month. (+100-50)

The 175 will probably experience issues next year as it is set to expand by 40-50% in 12 months.

On the CRJ side we all dodged a bullet when the 30 United 700s were placed with other carriers. Things would have come to a screeching halt. Instead of complaining about timing out, we would be complaining about being on reserve for 12 months and 4 year upgrades.
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Old 12-03-2017 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by StlLifer
Why is SW so short of FOs currently? I know they are going to get 45 new Erj-175s next year. I read something where they just added 27 CRJs? Is that correct?
Could it have something to do with the lousy pay they voted in for 5 years?
Old 12-03-2017 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by skyyspam
How long does it take a CRJ FO to get a line in DTW? What's the most junior CRJ base? Would it be better to bid ERJ because of next year's supposed growth?


It’s a gamble either way. I’m seeing a lot of people senior to me moving over to the ERJ from the CRJ.

So I may be going backwards in seniority in the near future. Not sure how the outlook is on the CRJ side.

Really it depends on if you want to live in base or not.


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Old 12-03-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Could it have something to do with the lousy pay they voted in for 5 years?
Exactly, why anybody would come here and not go to Endeavor would be foolish!

The pay package SAPA agreed to, as always lacked foresight.

And let's not forget the wonderful "block vs credit" BS!

I just looked at a 2 day trip in open time, Blocks 10:25 but credits 8:10!
Old 12-03-2017 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Green Needles
Could it have something to do with the lousy pay they voted in for 5 years?
Apparently not as new hire classes are still full and we had a net gain of fifty pilots to the seniority list.

If they see a trend in declining hiring numbers and an increasing exodus of FOs they will be back to the bargaining table long before 2022.
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Originally Posted by Check Complete

And let's not forget the wonderful "block vs credit" BS!

I just looked at a 2 day trip in open time, Blocks 10:25 but credits 8:10!
Why not just fly it slow to make block & increase historical credit values?

Doesn't the company want us to do this, as in that situation the pilots would make more money at mainline's expense, or am I misunderstanding this?
Old 12-03-2017 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Exactly, why anybody would come here and not go to Endeavor would be foolish!

The pay package SAPA agreed to, as always lacked foresight.

And let's not forget the wonderful "block vs credit" BS!

I just looked at a 2 day trip in open time, Blocks 10:25 but credits 8:10!
Do you not fly C.I. anyway?
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