SWA Hourly rate conversion
04-19-2018 | 07:26 PM
#11
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"The standard 1.15 +/- .02" of what? We no longer have traditional reserve monthly guarantee since we signed the current contract. Fly 2-3 trips a month at legacy, and you're getting your min guarantee. Fly it here at Southwest, and who knows what you're getting, but it's definitely higher than what you started the month with. I'd say that's highly relevant when drawing comparisons.
04-19-2018 | 09:52 PM
#12
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Sorry to hijack the thread. I just feel there is a little too much kool aid being represented here. Flying 120-130 trips a month on a regular basis should not be what you base your career off of.
04-20-2018 | 01:08 AM
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I guess if you are going to live on reserve for the rest of your career. Line holders on the fo side are not getting the re routes/ ja’s as much as in years past. (Thankfully)
Sorry to hijack the thread. I just feel there is a little too much kool aid being represented here. Flying 120-130 trips a month on a regular basis should not be what you base your career off of.
Sorry to hijack the thread. I just feel there is a little too much kool aid being represented here. Flying 120-130 trips a month on a regular basis should not be what you base your career off of.
Thanks for the tip, dad.
04-20-2018 | 05:58 AM
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I guess if you are going to live on reserve for the rest of your career. Line holders on the fo side are not getting the re routes/ ja’s as much as in years past. (Thankfully)
Sorry to hijack the thread. I just feel there is a little too much kool aid being represented here. Flying 120-130 trips a month on a regular basis should not be what you base your career off of.
Sorry to hijack the thread. I just feel there is a little too much kool aid being represented here. Flying 120-130 trips a month on a regular basis should not be what you base your career off of.
Keep fighting that good fight! We need that "hourly" to go up more.
04-20-2018 | 08:55 AM
#15
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Good luck. I’ve bid on over 50 premium trips in the last couple months with no luck.
04-20-2018 | 09:06 AM
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04-20-2018 | 09:24 AM
#18
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I love this place but call a spade a spade. You make money on reserve and you can pick up first year but after that it’s work to pick up. It’s being on your phone swapping trips and bidding open time. It’s picking up out of base and commuting. It’s extra time you are away from your family. A normal person with normal family commitments is not going to average 120-130 trips for very long and still have a family.
04-20-2018 | 09:45 AM
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For christ sakes!! The op asked for a conversion rate not a contract comparison. Give him the standard 1.15 +/- .02 and you are good. The fact that people average more has no relevance. We short change ourselves so much in this profession by adding qualifiers.
We make less per hour than Delta, United and American depending on the month. You make significantly less your first 4-5 years. (Dirty little secret) After that the pay disparity is not as significant but noticeable.
Realize that there is a min pay guarantee for a reason. Bad economic downturns could force you to be at guarantee.
Don’t get me wrong, Swa is a great place to work. We should be the highest 737 narrow body pilot in the industry for the amount of money we generate. You are shooting yourself in the foot with the “look at my w-2 argument.”
Rant off/
We make less per hour than Delta, United and American depending on the month. You make significantly less your first 4-5 years. (Dirty little secret) After that the pay disparity is not as significant but noticeable.
Realize that there is a min pay guarantee for a reason. Bad economic downturns could force you to be at guarantee.
Don’t get me wrong, Swa is a great place to work. We should be the highest 737 narrow body pilot in the industry for the amount of money we generate. You are shooting yourself in the foot with the “look at my w-2 argument.”
Rant off/
04-20-2018 | 09:49 AM
#20
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FWIW, I was genuinely surprised when I snagged a 3 day premium trip a few weeks ago. The senior guys have been scarfing up most of the open time at straight pay for the last few months.
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