That’s great! I’m glad your able to do this. I believe it is different for every domicile.
I’m 45% in domicile and there is definitely not as much premium as there used to be. If I want to have a blow out month I can. It does cost me being a maybe at a lot of life events.

My original point was the average is 107 trip. Half of the pilots here are working at or less than 107. Your lifestyle might dictate more or less.

The ****ing contest with legacy reserve is silly. They go to work half as much as you do and they have bigger equipment.

 

So THAT’S what it’s all about... disregard everything I previously said.

 

It’s the one thing we don’t talk about here. We only compare ourselves to other narrow body equipment. Wrongly I might add.

 

How would you go about convincing the management to agree to widebody rates at a narrow body airline?

 

BZC17
I'm similar seniority with you. Agreed on the less premium on the FO side. Not a surprise when we hire 1700 new FOs in '16 & 17' and only 500-sh Capt upgraded during that time -- you're going to be fat on FOs for a while until they catch up on the Capt upgrades. They are trying to do that this year by doing 550-ish this year and I assume similar next year. So, just like at every airline you can choose to just fly your line they give or you can try to actively manage your schedule. I choose the latter. The techniques used depend on the time of the year and your seniority and events such as being overmanned on FO's right now. So, the game to play now IMO is to trade your trips for reserve -- I will end this month with 8 days of reserve not being used for 48 TFP of sitting at home.
your last statement may hold true for a legacy wide-body FO that lives in domicile. But, alas, I knew when I went to SWA that wide-bodies were a long way away, if ever. So, it is a fools errand to compare SWA lifestyle to a legacy guy on a wide body. In my circle of friends - a narrow body, legacy, Capt or FO is working the same or more days than I am.
The OP just wanted to know what to expect for pay -- I think I and others gave him some useful information. Cheers!

 

I’m not saying it would be easy. It would have to follow the ups model. (No matter what we fly we have the same pay rate)
You could sell it to the company by guaranteeing rates in case they ever wanted to upgauge to bigger planes. It would/could force the company to push into new/farther destinations. (Btw this is all post Kelly, he’s too risk averse)

We don’t have a strong enough union though. Management knows that.

 

I just wanted a fair/honest representation of Swa. I was tired of the rose colored glasses that have been portrayed by rj and ang for the better part of six months. It’s a great job, just like every other legacy. If you can live in base it should be a top choice.
I have no desire to fly long haul. (been there done that by the name) I've also flown with too many captains that need to fly 120 trips a month just to make ends meet. If you are conservative going in you’ll never be disappointed.

 

Agreed...it's a great job but so are the legacies. In reality most guys won't have a choice and will take the first major airline that offers them a job. Yep, I also hate the long haul stuff -- did plenty of that in a former life. I get restless on anything greater than 3 hrs.
Conservative is the way to go -- plan to live on 90 TFP or less per month and the rest is gravy.

 

You're averaging 12 tfp per day on reserve?

Uh, OK.........

 

Reserve can be pretty lucrative Slip, but commuters generally stay away from it.

Commuting is a very expensive proposition as your opportunity cost/uncompensated time spent on airplanes and away from home is probably into 7 figures of missed/lost income over the span of your career.