Dallas Morning News SWA article?
09-08-2020, 05:04 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by Mozam
No kidding. I can’t believe how many are so against just lowering LG .
Given the right language, I have zero problem with temporarily lowering LG to prevent furloughs. I just think people are getting ahead of themselves, as usual.
Gary has said we are safe through the end of the year. He wants to see what 1 and 2Q 2021 look like before making drastic changes. Good on him for staying the course.
It just kills me that as soon as things look slightly dark, folks are willing to negotiate in a very public way on concessions that haven't even been brought up by the company.
09-08-2020, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
Given the right language, I have zero problem with temporarily lowering LG to prevent furloughs. I just think people are getting ahead of themselves, as usual.
Gary has said we are safe through the end of the year. He wants to see what 1 and 2Q 2021 look like before making drastic changes. Good on him for staying the course.
It just kills me that as soon as things look slightly dark, folks are willing to negotiate in a very public way on concessions that haven't even been brought up by the company.
Gary has said we are safe through the end of the year. He wants to see what 1 and 2Q 2021 look like before making drastic changes. Good on him for staying the course.
It just kills me that as soon as things look slightly dark, folks are willing to negotiate in a very public way on concessions that haven't even been brought up by the company.
09-08-2020, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Why lower line guarantee before limiting max credit? If someone is regularly getting 170 and you limit them to 110 that’s nearly 1 FO saved. Do it for the entire pilot group to figure out TFP saved by not being a OT *****. Then, offer more ETO, EXTO lines and possibly do a 1 on, 1 off like other airlines. Once you’ve exhausted all options do you lower guarantee.
Lowering min line guarantee is a self correcting concession. Limiting max credit is not. I would rather give up something that is not going to be an issue when demand returns and the lines are worth 90 plus again.
09-08-2020, 07:55 AM
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As a 'glass-half-empty' type, even I'm not envisioning furloughs at SWA. With 1/3 of their labor already out on extended leaves or early retirement and the additional flexibility of month to month leaves, while currently adding destinations, I tend to believe GK is simply doing what the rest of the CEOs are doing: looking for CARES 2 handouts.
Regions recovering as death rates decrease, virus loses strength, and therapeutics improve. The media's fixation (fascination?) on hourly death counts is falling on deaf ears; predictions of millions stacked like cordwood have long passed. A vaccine on the immediate horizon, 150 million rapid tests, election year shenanigans over (and 'peaceful' protests), schools, restaurants and businesses will open, conventions, cruise lines, hotels, etc,, domestic travel will likely pick up over the holiday and continue to expand through spring and summer.
TSA throughput almost hit a million travelers last friday which puts it close to 50% the same day last year (2.2M I'd predicted 1M by thanksgiving so even my pessimistic prediction was off). While I agree the international side will take longer to recover, I expect SWA to seize upon this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to expand into vacated lucrative markets. This is GK's 'Herb moment' to capitalize on the demise of others; I highly doubt he will squander it by furloughing away his dry powder, and ruin SWA's no-furlough record... while sitting on a $15B war chest.
Regions recovering as death rates decrease, virus loses strength, and therapeutics improve. The media's fixation (fascination?) on hourly death counts is falling on deaf ears; predictions of millions stacked like cordwood have long passed. A vaccine on the immediate horizon, 150 million rapid tests, election year shenanigans over (and 'peaceful' protests), schools, restaurants and businesses will open, conventions, cruise lines, hotels, etc,, domestic travel will likely pick up over the holiday and continue to expand through spring and summer.
TSA throughput almost hit a million travelers last friday which puts it close to 50% the same day last year (2.2M I'd predicted 1M by thanksgiving so even my pessimistic prediction was off). While I agree the international side will take longer to recover, I expect SWA to seize upon this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to expand into vacated lucrative markets. This is GK's 'Herb moment' to capitalize on the demise of others; I highly doubt he will squander it by furloughing away his dry powder, and ruin SWA's no-furlough record... while sitting on a $15B war chest.
09-08-2020, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Why lower line guarantee before limiting max credit? If someone is regularly getting 170 and you limit them to 110 that’s nearly 1 FO saved. Do it for the entire pilot group to figure out TFP saved by not being a OT *****. Then, offer more ETO, EXTO lines and possibly do a 1 on, 1 off like other airlines. Once you’ve exhausted all options do you lower guarantee.
Limiting max credit does nothing. Look how many trips end up going to reserve on the weekends . Even asking to limit max credit will chase off anyone who was/ is willing to lower LG. Keep in mind I am a low time flyer saying this. Even hearing this makes me want to vote NO on any change , even a lower LG.
09-08-2020, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mozam
Limiting max credit does nothing. Look how many trips end up going to reserve on the weekends . Even asking to limit max credit will chase off anyone who was/ is willing to lower LG. Keep in mind I am a low time flyer saying this. Even hearing this makes me want to vote NO on any change , even a lower LG.
09-08-2020, 12:39 PM
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Senate is moving forward with a relief bill vote...will see what house does. It’s all posturing on both sides but GK knows a relief bill will come. Use government money, buy someone after things return to normal
09-08-2020, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by dawgdriver
As a 'glass-half-empty' type, even I'm not envisioning furloughs at SWA. With 1/3 of their labor already out on extended leaves or early retirement and the additional flexibility of month to month leaves, while currently adding destinations, I tend to believe GK is simply doing what the rest of the CEOs are doing: looking for CARES 2 handouts.
Regions recovering as death rates decrease, virus loses strength, and therapeutics improve. The media's fixation (fascination?) on hourly death counts is falling on deaf ears; predictions of millions stacked like cordwood have long passed. A vaccine on the immediate horizon, 150 million rapid tests, election year shenanigans over (and 'peaceful' protests), schools, restaurants and businesses will open, conventions, cruise lines, hotels, etc,, domestic travel will likely pick up over the holiday and continue to expand through spring and summer.
TSA throughput almost hit a million travelers last friday which puts it close to 50% the same day last year (2.2M I'd predicted 1M by thanksgiving so even my pessimistic prediction was off). While I agree the international side will take longer to recover, I expect SWA to seize upon this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to expand into vacated lucrative markets. This is GK's 'Herb moment' to capitalize on the demise of others; I highly doubt he will squander it by furloughing away his dry powder, and ruin SWA's no-furlough record... while sitting on a $15B war chest.
Regions recovering as death rates decrease, virus loses strength, and therapeutics improve. The media's fixation (fascination?) on hourly death counts is falling on deaf ears; predictions of millions stacked like cordwood have long passed. A vaccine on the immediate horizon, 150 million rapid tests, election year shenanigans over (and 'peaceful' protests), schools, restaurants and businesses will open, conventions, cruise lines, hotels, etc,, domestic travel will likely pick up over the holiday and continue to expand through spring and summer.
TSA throughput almost hit a million travelers last friday which puts it close to 50% the same day last year (2.2M I'd predicted 1M by thanksgiving so even my pessimistic prediction was off). While I agree the international side will take longer to recover, I expect SWA to seize upon this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to expand into vacated lucrative markets. This is GK's 'Herb moment' to capitalize on the demise of others; I highly doubt he will squander it by furloughing away his dry powder, and ruin SWA's no-furlough record... while sitting on a $15B war chest.
09-08-2020, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Senate is moving forward with a relief bill vote...will see what house does. It’s all posturing on both sides but GK knows a relief bill will come. Use government money, buy someone after things return to normal
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...source=twitter
https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/03/1...ronavirus.html
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