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05-23-2021 | 07:09 AM

#361

Profane Kahuna

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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450

bring in the ‘dozers and wrecking balls!

so it will be ready in 2026?

05-23-2021 | 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by hoover

So if the rumor of new hires in Oct are true then when would the 500 ExTOs have to start training to get them all done? They cant even train the June ones in June. I still say upgrades in Sept and Oct, maybe a sprinkling of recalls in Nov then everyone back Jan/Feb with a new hire class at the end of Feb.

Maybe the company is going to bring the CJOs in first since they are cheaper?

05-23-2021 | 08:38 AM

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Interviews in October don’t mean class dates this year. My guess is all ExTO pilots back on property before new hires start class. Interviews make sense. Filling classes right now doesn’t.

05-23-2021 | 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna

Maybe the company is going to bring the CJOs in first since they are cheaper?

Don't have a TFP calculator, but 80hrs X $191 (12yr FO recall), is 1K less than (80hrs X $84) + (50ish hrs X $191) (CJO + EXTO), could be pretty much a wash financially.

05-23-2021 | 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by at6d

Interviews in October don’t mean class dates this year. My guess is all ExTO pilots back on property before new hires start class. Interviews make sense. Filling classes right now doesn’t.

the CJOs are saying they are being told zoom “interview” July, classes October

05-23-2021 | 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

Don't have a TFP calculator, but 80hrs X $191 (12yr FO recall), is 1K less than (80hrs X $84) + (50ish hrs X $191) (CJO + EXTO), could be pretty much a wash financially.

What happens when it’s more than 80hrs?

Also, what makes you say 12yr FO? Many of the people who took the 5 year ExTO were very junior.

05-23-2021 | 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sMFer

“We may see another expansion of the Training center to add more simulators as that is the limiting factor in growth as we rebound from Covid. Currently, there is an office building at the end of the training center. SWA bought that building during Covid to allow for expansion of the facility to add simulators.”

Well that's why they needed the 10%. Pandemic bargain shopping.

05-23-2021 | 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

Don't have a TFP calculator, but 80hrs X $191 (12yr FO recall), is 1K less than (80hrs X $84) + (50ish hrs X $191) (CJO + EXTO), could be pretty much a wash financially.

We aren’t paid in hours. Plus don’t you mean 108tfp? That’s what the current contract was based on.

05-24-2021 | 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mulcher

We aren’t paid in hours. Plus don’t you mean 108tfp? That’s what the current contract was based on.

Plus all previous contracts. It would be nice if more realized this .

05-24-2021 | 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna

What happens when it’s more than 80hrs?

Also, what makes you say 12yr FO? Many of the people who took the 5 year ExTO were very junior.

If it’s a more junior guy, recalling becomes cheaper for the company (first year guy on exto + CJO = 130hrs paid vs 80hrs for recall), and if it’s more than 80hrs it becomes more expensive for the company, so that is why I took 80&12.
Like I said, could be a wash..........