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05-18-2021, 08:06 AM
#261
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Pull up the open time awards for today (a Tuesday) and tell me with a straight face the ExTOs won't be back until 2022.
The only reason everyone isn't back RIGHT NOW is training capacity (and the FO/CA imbalance to some degree). They forced people back and then can't even training them until the following month. Watch what they do, not what they say.
The only reason everyone isn't back RIGHT NOW is training capacity (and the FO/CA imbalance to some degree). They forced people back and then can't even training them until the following month. Watch what they do, not what they say.
05-18-2021, 08:11 AM
#262
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Flying with a check airman this week. He said he is being told the rest of the EXTOs won't be back until spring 2022 at the earliest, and that there was no hiring planned for the foreseeable future. Might be a few upgrades to balance the seats but that's about it.
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So bring back the captains and pay FOs to sit at home, and pay premium?
05-18-2021, 10:17 AM
#264
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Originally Posted by Proximity
Pull up the open time awards for today (a Tuesday) and tell me with a straight face the ExTOs won't be back until 2022.
The only reason everyone isn't back RIGHT NOW is training capacity (and the FO/CA imbalance to some degree). They forced people back and then can't even training them until the following month. Watch what they do, not what they say.
The only reason everyone isn't back RIGHT NOW is training capacity (and the FO/CA imbalance to some degree). They forced people back and then can't even training them until the following month. Watch what they do, not what they say.
Yeah. Exactly. A Tuesday in mid May before summer vacation starts. This summer is going to be insane.
As soon as those ExTO recalls can get trained, they will be on the line. The company is paying 400 something guys to do their mil jobs/vacation while simultaneously paying premium for almost every single open time award. I am not an accountant, but that's a lot of money.
05-18-2021, 10:27 AM
#265
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As somebody who used to oversee all of the check airmen at an airline, there is not a single non-management check airman in the country who has any additional information than what is being said to recurrent/new hire classes or what is being deduced by publicly available information I.e. Recall notices and vacancy notices.
05-18-2021, 10:31 AM
#266
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Flying with a check airman this week. He said he is being told the rest of the EXTOs won't be back until spring 2022 at the earliest, and that there was no hiring planned for the foreseeable future. Might be a few upgrades to balance the seats but that's about it.
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05-18-2021, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
The company is paying 400 something guys to do their mil jobs/vacation while simultaneously paying premium for almost every single open time award. I am not an accountant, but that's a lot of money.
Then the company would have paid them 88 TFP a month to sit at home on reserve from September through April.
The quarterly financial reports laid it out, the savings was in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
05-18-2021, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
The quarterly financial reports laid it out, the savings was in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Should be interesting see how our most junior pilots feel after Xmas WARN notices followed by a summer of JA.
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