Exactly. Anyone that helps still can't see it which I find amazing.


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From an insider. Far less then they expected or normal.

 

Good. The less they get, the stronger the incentive to improve our compensation in a competitive labor market.

 

Yep. I agree.

 

to be fair there are a few that have lost their medical and this is a way to stay relevant. But I agree they'll grow or shrink without our help

 

That is surprising because I would think anyone from a regional (other than guys close to a flow) would really be on it, even if SWA is not their destination airline. That goes for MIL guys as well. It will be interesting to see the attrition numbers once everyone starts hiring 100/month or more.

 

Line pilots have been working in the training center for years.

 

SWA was the bees knees when nobody else was hiring. Unless you live in a SWA domicile, the faster (and maybe better in the long run) return is to go to UAL/DAL. AA is still too much of a basket case to make that one any better than a tie, but the upgrade there is much faster. B6 and NK have good contracts and good financials and a much faster upgrade. This isn't even touching FedEx or UPS being miles ahead of our contract.

If I were doing the jump right now, SWA would be close to the bottom of my list unless I lived in a SWA domicile ( which I do). Our benefits: line bidding for vacation and plenty of open time right now. Our cons: long upgrade, penny wise pound foolish management, poor labor relations, no widebody pay scale, missing lots of ancillaries in the contract that are industry standard at the legacies (uniforms, parking, crew meals for originators or terminators), ****poor disability and loss of license, no flight bennies if you're out on disability, no long call reserve, poor commutability of trips, etc.

The union and the pilot group have a lot of work to do, but the company will have to compete for new hires against better compensation and work rules elsewhere. That might move the bar more than any amount of shoe leather.

 

It will be interesting to see how many don't show up for class. And then how many leave during class. And then how many leave in the first year. And then how many leave before upgrade in 10 years.

 

all very good points. When I was looking to move on up I had no idea about disability plans, ancillary benefits, and how we lose everything when out on medical. Somehow it would be nice to put out an education piece to regionals, military et al and show how far behind we are. Then see how many show up. Not sure our union can legally do that but if I would have known more in would have tried more to go somewhere else.