Hiring 2022
07-13-2022, 10:43 AM
#1391
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,524
Hiring 2022
2250 new pilots? So 3471 WARNs? This would put us around 12000 pilots at the end of 23.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
If you want a good, analytical, and balanced non rah rah view of the pilot hiring situation, take a listen to the latest SWAPA number podcast. Zard, I know you are a frequent listener, so that wasn't aimed at you.
New hires and prospective new hires, I suggest you all subscribe to that podcast and start listening. SWAPA excels in some areas and falls down in others. The area that they most excel at is using data driven analytics to make their point. The data, quite simply, does not lie. When you can present your case calmly using actual numbers, it makes you strong and your opponent weak.
Spoiler alert - about half of those max deliveries are growth, which is why they are cranking up the hiring machine. Eventually, they are going to run into an attrition and competition problem with other carriers, especially if AA and UA settle on terms sooner than later.
07-13-2022, 12:02 PM
#1392
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Joined APC: Dec 2011
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 859
2250 new pilots? So 3471 WARNs? This would put us around 12000 pilots at the end of 23.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
07-13-2022, 12:24 PM
#1393
Furloughed Again?!
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Position: Boeing 737
Posts: 4,797
2250 new pilots? So 3471 WARNs? This would put us around 12000 pilots at the end of 23.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
2250 pilots you say?
07-13-2022, 01:25 PM
#1394
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,970
2250 new pilots? So 3471 WARNs? This would put us around 12000 pilots at the end of 23.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
07-13-2022, 01:25 PM
#1395
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Joined APC: May 2018
Posts: 752
2250 new pilots? So 3471 WARNs? This would put us around 12000 pilots at the end of 23.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
We have 600+ Max orders out to 2031, but the mystery is how many are growth and how many are replacements. Will we really have 950-1000 planes by the end of next year? That seems….optimistic.
07-13-2022, 04:09 PM
#1399
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: DOWNGRADE COMPLETE: Thanks Gary. Thanks SWAPA.
Posts: 6,665
FUPM. That’s all I’ve got to say right now. I’m getting sick of this getting strung out and I’m gonna start challenging my reps on why we’re not filing for mediation.
07-13-2022, 04:21 PM
#1400
weekends off? Nope...
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Posts: 1,970
Today's news related to United's TA has gotta be deflating to Carl's desires to string things along. Time to turn up the heat.
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