All in the MOU perhaps but how about a thread to help each other figure out our pay protections for holiday flying cancellations and changes.

For example: Double time applies to flying picked up from the company but ONLY on the greater of legs flown or the daily rig. So as an example, if a heavy block day that was going to pay a ton under double time cancels all together and you’re left with nothing on that day except a DH back to domicile to finish up the trip, are you only getting paid the original straight value of the day or 5.0 tfp for the DH (whichever is greater)?

1.5X applies to flying picked up or traded between pilots, but is it applied the same way? In other words if your legs cancel are you pay protected for the 1.5X on those legs or just the straight value of those legs?

Seems like a lot of our peers are getting hosed on pay due to all the cancellations out there with the storm ripping through the country.

 

open time trips are pay protected to the value of the award, cancellation doesn’t change that. Have any trips been audited yet or do they think they’re being hosed while still showing “audit needed”? None of my Dec MOU window trips have been audited yet…

 

What Smooth said.

Nobody is getting hosed at all. It's always been the same as long as I have been here. Your final audit should show the greater of what you flew or what you were originally awarded for each duty period. The holiday audits for the Christmas period are not done yet and they won't be for a while. Once the audit is done, if you think you got hosed, send it to SWAPA contract admin and they will let you know. If it is in error, they will contact payroll for you.

One of my thanksgiving audits was in error and I got it corrected. This is a pretty regular occurrence for me. It happens at least a few times a year, usually on complex and multiple reroutes.

If an error has you unfairly over the cap, call payroll and they will straighten it out quickly, at least until they can officially audit it.

 

No trips have been audited yet even for December. So you’re saying they’re pay protected to the original award, but is that day by day? Ex. Last day of a 3-day cx and was supposed to pay 14.00 at DT but now shows only paying 5.0 for a morning DH back to domicile. What’s that day going to be pay protected to? 5.0 for the DH, 7.0 for the original straight value or 14.0 for the DT awarded value of the day?

 

Thanks. So you’re saying that DT and 1.5X trips are pay protected the same way? I thought you lose the DT if you don’t end up flying the legs?

 

If the legs were originally awarded as DT or PP (that's how the trip was picked up) then it is protected, yes. That is the lowest you will get paid unless you call sick or fatigued.

You get paid the highest of what was awarded or what was actually flown per duty period.

If you have a day that is awarded as 5.0, later gets changed to 10.0, but then cancels before you fly anything, you get 5.

If you have a day that is awarded as 10.0 and cancels with just a deadhead home paying 5, you get paid 10.0.

Clear as mud?

 

Okay, so basically standard pay protection applies. Awesomesauce. Thanks.

 

what E6 said. Only people losing out are the ones not flying their trips because the company told them they are sick. But that was explained in writing months ago…

 

I have no idea what my reserve trips are paying. Flew every assigned reserve day during MOU, the standard hundred changes per day. Some legs say DT, some say PP, some have nothing. My guess is it will all be at 1.5 of legs flown, normal rigs, or 9tfp per day. But when I look at my board and try to do the math, they were already awarded with DT calculated, and then there’s overfly, so the numbers on the trip are all over the place. Wish our company was trustworthy enough to pay correctly, but you have to check their math every time. There should be some class action lawsuit against a multi-billion dollar, publicly traded company, that systematically steals from its hourly wage earners!

 

Agreed. It’s super confusing. Don’t know if it’s rigged to 9.0/day as well.

I got move up yesterday with DT (initial reserve assigned). My best day to date at 19.92! Hopefully it’ll stick.