Good luck dropping those 4 day weekend reserve blocks, or any of the other undesirable lines you will get in year 1-2. I’m in yr 6 and Nobody just “pick up” my trips out of TTGA and then I swoop in and pick up 170 TFP of premium all on Tue-We’d-Thur.

Im your average family guy, live in base, don’t call in sick to improve my sched, and avg 110 TFP a month. Mostly move up’s, reroutes and JA’s add to my total. I’ll pick up here and there but also prioritize my family time.

 

Sometimes, I get ill just looking at my schedule. For whatever reason, I get violently ill whenever the one leg, dead head back 2 day trip that I was awarded in OT turns into a really ugly trip that pays all of 1.5 TFP more.

Luckily, there's a cure for what ails me.

 

More cowbell? 😬

 

Boy...set off a bit of a fire storm. Totally not my intention and probably a lesson not to post on my mobile device while waiting for a table at a restaurant. Guess I should clarify a few things.

• Fist and foremost, I definitely should have clarified that I was talking total comp and not just gross. I was not attempting to mislead but I can see how it is viewed, so if anyone was guided wrong, that's on me, take full responsibility, and I apologize. I can do better when I post to back things up.
• I am of the mindset our contract lags, I completely agree that we have to work more than our peers, and that we start behind the curve. I am not trying to hand out any koolaid and those that know me here in real life, know I stand by that and my feelings towards the overall operation currently.
• I do try to play the game with the cards I am dealt and make the best pay/schedule I can that works for me. Everyone is different.
• I am a NO vote until we fix not just pay but a lot of other issues which are well discussed elsewhere such as LTD, STD, Training, etc..etc..etc.
• I do know one particular fifth year FO that did gross well over $300K but yes, he worked his tail off! It is not me. If they want to chime in they can.

Since I started the melee I guess I should put my cards on the table. I will end 2022 with a gross (including perdiem just because that is how my spreadsheet is) of $281K and a total comp including NEC & PS of $336K (10 months on year 5 and two months on year 6). I will have worked (including any reserve that was not used) of approximately 175-180 days. I average 150+ TFP/mo, every month and had a few months well north of 200+ TFP. Those are my actual numbers unless something drastic happens in November and it is estimating my November at 140 TFP. I had crappy vacation weeks which I did fly over (there was a meltdown as usual) and that helped bring the numbers up, and the premium G-d's have been smiling as I fly a lot more than I ever envisioned of 10+ TFP days including a few four days that paid around 50 TFP's. I have been lucky with some net zero, some trading and ELITT for lower block, a few and far between giveaway of a nice turn, a covid pull, an occasional sick call because I was not fit to fly, some training pulls, etc. I am not in a cartel, nor do I work for the union (but am an ardent supporter and stood the line in Dallas a few months back). I do work hard(er) than I would like in the long term, but I have my reasons and it is not a long term play but a current strategy that works for what my family and I are trying to achieve.

Hope this helps, and again, apologies to anyone who felt my statement came across as insincere. We are a brother/sisterhood and I stand by you all, every day of the week and twice on sunday.

Wishing everyone a wonderful holiday season. Safe flying.

 

That was way too well thought out for an APC post.

But yeah. We work hard. No doubt.

 

Gross w2 at the 6 month mark shows 44,000. 6400$ NEC.

As a commuter 90 is min. 105 is easy 110 seems pretty common. I picked up to 128 one month and worked 18 days. It’s way easier than 135 even with the commute. Hope this helps.

 

Thank you, it does!

So if you’re 6 months in all this should be pretty fresh in your head. What’s the training pay based on? How long did your training take? Was there time to go home on breaks? Where did you stay?

Thanks to all for the replies to the post.

 

You get full pay an benefits from day one. Pay is guarantee, so 87/88/89 TFPs per month depending on how many days in the month.

The training is around 55 days. It isn't really designed with breaks for you to go home...you might get 1-2 days off here and there. The recently changed the schedule and it will change again soon most likely so don't count of specific days off.

Hilton Anatole is the hotel.

 

Thanks so much!
I Interviewed with a blue competitor a couple months ago and asked what their training pay was, 2000….. for the entire training:/ TBNT (that was my practice interview to get me ready for when SW called, luckily I got the call 3 weeks later)

 

Now that is a nice hotel!