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Donald Trump

 

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There YOU go again, grossly distorting what I'm saying into a straw man argument of your own creation. You do you.

Jim Jordan: working against America?

Ilhan Omar: working against America?

Donald Trump: working against America?

Joe Biden: working against America?

A large percentage of the American population believe two of the above people are working against America while, simultaneously, a large percentage of Americans believe those same two people are working for America. What's the truth? I don't know for sure. Do you?

You and I disagree on what it means to support this pilot group and SWAPA. That doesn't mean I'm working against this pilot group or SWAPA. I don't think I am.

You see things differently. I perceive the unquestioning, unblinking faith in the direction SWAPA is currently taking that you appear to me to espouse to be the sort of mindset that will lead us straight into another industry-lagging contract resulting in what to me are undesirable outcomes like spouses being denied treatment for cancer care, fellow pilots being kicked to the curb as soon as their sick time expires, work rules that treat us like rented mules, significantly less lifetime career compensation versus the Big Three, and a seven-figure deficit in retirement after a 30-year career compared to Delta and United. To me, that's working against the interests of this pilot group.

You probably don't see it that way. That's fine.

And btw, in reference to your question about "proof," on post 26, off the top of my head, I listed eight reasons why I feel the way I do and I specified that it was a stream of consciousness post - meaning I was writing what came to mind at the time. I'd also add that the only place in "Flight Plan 2020" I can find that talks specifically about "industry-leading" contractual improvements is in terms of retirement. You can disagree with what I've listed and their significance. That's also fine.

I don't think I've posted about specific allegations of some sort of plot as you seem to insinuate.

I've talked about "signs" and "smoke signals" - ie indications - that I perceive coming from SWAPA that hint to me that we're not heading in the direction of ending up with an industry-leading contract. Hopefully, if that's actually the case, corrective action can be taken before it's too late.

Please engage with what I'm actually saying versus your own made-up, warped version of what I'm saying.

 

As an outside observer, seeing how much effort you put into posting here, maybe you should run for a local rep position.

Put out a few letters (you seem to be able to write), spend some time in the crew room shaking hands, get your message out in person. Get elected.

Now in you're in a position to get to work, and people are forced to listen to you, instead of howling at the moon on an internet forum, which no matter how much you write, will never, ever move the needle to any degree.

"I've got kids/mil duty/outside gig/business/rentals....etc etc". Lots of people do those and still serve as a rep and make it work. Step up, because you will never, ever get the satisfaction you want posting here.

 

Hey, thanks for the advice.

I'll tell you one thing: before I started talking about the "book away phenomena" and explained why the President can't "shut us down," very few people at SWA seemed to understand those things. Maybe that hasn't really made a difference. Maybe it has.

Maybe I think working from the outside has its own advantages. Maybe you don't agree. That's fine. We see things differently.

 

Working inside SWAPA requires group think. At least it did during my little stint and peak at the inside of SWApA and how it works.

 

Their are definitely provisions in our current CBA that need attention. I would argue though that our health care is pretty damn good here. All of my friends at other carriers have to pay premium's in their health insurance plans. We do not unless you choose the choice plans. Max out of pocket of 2500 bucks which includes prescriptions. I haven't had to pay premiums in years. That's a big cost. The other is scope/code sharing. Nobody has the restrictions that we do. The other three have PBS. No thank you. None of them have had 100% retro. No thank you again. I'll take mine. Current CBA gives a 15% NEC. Thats worth 2.5-3.0 million depending what age you get hired here. Thats only the company contribution. That didn't even exist six years ago. Personally I think we should do away with profit sharing as a "benefit". I'll take that in more NEC funding. Sick time and disability need to be revamped. 100% agree on that. We should have the ability to cash a portion of that out and be tied only to sick. That is an 800 million asset to the pilot group we can't get to. And it's also tied to disability. That needs to change.

I see where you are coming from, especially over the last two years here. It has been a ****** show for sure. Seems we roll from crisis into the next. That is concerning. The pilot pool is dwindling and it's not going to get better anytime soon. WE definitely need industry leading BUT don't take away my healthcare, code sharing/scope. And leave PBS to others. It's healthy to challenge and speak truth to power whether it's the CEO or the SWAPA president. This place has never had a lead industry contract. To get it we may have to walk. Im ready. Vote yes on the SAV and save your money.
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You realize that the 15% NEC is 1% BELOW industry standard and we will only fall further behind in retirement as time goes on… don’t you? I ask only because it sounded like you were praising it and while it’s much better than the old match, it was intentionally provocative to peg us a measly 1% behind everyone else.

 

With DL going to 18%, I'd imagine the other two will match. We need to be there as well....It's one thing to go from a 9.3% match to a 15% contribution in addition to large pay raises. The heavy work is done, just need to add a couple % points. The big sticking point here will be work rules (scheduling language, disability, etc). Pay rates will have to match or exceed the OAL's if they have any hope of hiring the numbers they want.

The longer they draw this out, the better off we are in terms of the final product. Had they agreed to everything we wanted in 2020.....we'd be so far behind it wouldn't even be funny.

 

Agree 100% on that. I would argue that we need to be above the others because some of the other carriers were a able to recoup some of their pension misfortunes aka stock options as well some were able to freeze their pensions. I only brought it up because we did not have it pre 2015. Which was a gain last section six.

 

Stop putting words into my mouth.

I said support the SAV.

If you can find any instance where I said I want “industry-lagging” then I will go away.

I’m challenging you to show the proof of what you allege.


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