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Old 05-01-2023 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuseplug
That's interesting because when it came up at CQT a couple of years ago, we got a very wishy-washy word salad from a higher-up in Dallas on the day-one brief. That led to a good discussion in class afterwards and a consensus that we'd be the ones lawyering up in the off chance something went really wrong. That totally changed my perspective on the whole chair-pushing thing.
Be sure that the company would be taking the advice of FH in that situation and would not be your advocate.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 08:43 AM
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My default answer is that no, I don't do it. However, it is highly situationally dependent. I am not going to let somebody's 90 year old grandma sit at the bottom of a hot jet bridge.
That's where I am as well. Add on the extra walkarounds I'm now doing (including a postflight on a plane swap in the middle of the day), and I'm loaded down enough with my actual job, thanks.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Fuseplug
... we'd be the ones lawyering up in the off chance something went really wrong. That totally changed my perspective on the whole chair-pushing thing.
Yup. Normally, if something happens when you're doing your job, you're acting as an agent of the company and they're the liable party. If you're working outside the scope of your employment, however, it may absolve the company of that liability and put it on you.

FOM mention or not, I think you'd have a real uphill battle in court trying to prove that pushing wheelchairs is part of your job as an airline pilot.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Neither am I nor have I ever been for many, many reasons.
Never have and never will push a wheel chair. If a sr FA told me that I’d laugh and say I dont push wheel chairs. Had DAL ops agent say I can board early if I helped push chairs. I said I’ll board when my contract says I will. I’m a must ride and don’t push chairs. I’m done with the bs at this place and being treated like pilots suck. Jelly did great at tribalism.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 10:10 AM
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Never have and never will push a wheel chair. If a sr FA told me that I’d laugh and say I dont push wheel chairs. Had DAL ops agent say I can board early if I helped push chairs. I said I’ll board when my contract says I will. I’m a must ride and don’t push chairs. I’m done with the bs at this place and being treated like pilots suck. Jelly did great at tribalism.
Along those lines…..look at the parts of the world where airline pilots are REALLY respected to a high level and ask yourself if they push wheelchairs.

My primary reason that I’ve never pushed a wheelchair is to uphold the respect for the profession but secondary is the liability aspect as well.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER;[url=tel:3631225
3631225[/url]]Along those lines…..look at the parts of the world where airline pilots are REALLY respected to a high level and ask yourself if they push wheelchairs.

My primary reason that I’ve never pushed a wheelchair is to uphold the respect for the profession but secondary is the liability aspect as well.
Same reason I wear the blazer.
Don't @ me. They want us to look like a Dominos delivery driver so they can treat us like a Dominos delivery driver. Nope. Blazer.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Same reason I wear the blazer.
Don't @ me. They want us to look like a Dominos delivery driver so they can treat us like a Dominos delivery driver. Nope. Blazer.

another life; I was standing outside a South American hotel in uniform w/blazer on. A guest handed me their keys to bring the car around.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Same reason I wear the blazer.
Don't @ me. They want us to look like a Dominos delivery driver so they can treat us like a Dominos delivery driver. Nope. Blazer.
BINGO!!!!! Call me old fashioned but the blazer looks the most polished and professional and commands the most respect.

What’s that saying, Zap? If you want to be paid like a professional then dress and act like one.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
another life; I was standing outside a South American hotel in uniform w/blazer on. A guest handed me their keys to bring the car around.
Was it a Miata? I would’ve been all over that $h!t.
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Old 05-01-2023 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
Was it a Miata? I would’ve been all over that $h!t.

I don’t think so. They didn’t look like they owned a flower shop or boutique.😁

JK. My son had a Miata and I had a blast driving it. He’s a welder.
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