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12-01-2023 | 12:23 PM

#141

SlipKid

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Originally Posted by mulcher

I wonder if the new vacation bid has made it in the contract? Some say rates are out.

I am pretty sure it's gonna be in there, unfortunately.

12-01-2023 | 01:16 PM

#142

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Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis

Deltas new rules stack, and the number gets large in a hurry, especially on longer duty days. You want to make sure that the different forms of pay stack with one another, and don’t offset.

It is pay multiples and rigs will not absorb the added pay. I’m hoping we have a 1:1 over 10 hrs duty also. If they want to make my day longer they can pay for it.

12-01-2023 | 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

Kind of a low bar if you ask me.... don't get shiny keyed about certain aspects of their or any legacy contract for that matter. You want a nice crew meal in exchange for 5 day trips with 30 hour layovers in Bumfucville that includes redeyes, AM's and PM's in those 5 days? Like their ability to shift flying to their JV's and regionals? Like working 14-15 days off a month assuming no overlap? Don't let that A350 blind you to the rest....

Well reigning those things in for us and getting top pay would be INDUSTRY LEADING.

12-01-2023 | 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

It is pay multiples and rigs will not absorb the added pay. I’m hoping we have a 1:1 over 10 hrs duty also. If they want to make my day longer they can pay for it.

It would also need to be 1:1 at the Hourly conversion not TFP in order to match the OALs. So 1.149:1?

12-01-2023 | 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jetset

It would also need to be 1:1 at the Hourly conversion not TFP in order to match the OALs. So 1.149:1?

Carl had said they were going to give us the 4 min before overfly kicks in so wouldn’t an hour be an hour then? 🤔

12-01-2023 | 07:47 PM

#146

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

Carl had said they were going to give us the 4 min before overfly kicks in so wouldn’t an hour be an hour then? 🤔

that’s for block not duty

12-02-2023 | 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

Carl had said they were going to give us the 4 min before overfly kicks in so wouldn’t an hour be an hour then? 🤔

Needs to be duty, not block.

12-02-2023 | 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jetset

that’s for block not duty

yeah that makes sense.

12-02-2023 | 04:41 AM

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flyguy81

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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

Needs to be duty, not block.

yeah I was thinking about block time. Duty should be 1:1…curious to see if that’s in the TA or not.

12-02-2023 | 05:46 AM

#150

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Quote:

Originally Posted by flyguy81

yeah I was thinking about block time. Duty should be 1:1…curious to see if that’s in the TA or not.

It's not (they've had multiple comms about that). There may be a 1:1 for over something like 10 hours of duty though (based on Flight Plan 2020 or some other product they've put out).