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Old 12-02-2023 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Stitches
Reassignment legs inside original pairing footprint pay a 50% premium override on top of the original pay.

Reassignment legs outside the original pairing footprint pay a 100% premium override on top of the original pay. The whole leg does not have to be outside to trigger this. If you get reassigned and the leg blocks in later (or starts earlier) than originally scheduled the 100% override will trigger for that leg and any others outside the footprint.

With ANY reassignment, you will ALWAYS make more money on top of the original pay. Rigs will no longer absorb work for no extra pay. There is lots of education on this coming soon.



Heres a practical example: You have a Dal-Hou-Dal turn with 1 fly leg and a deadhead return. Each leg pays 1 tfp. The leg total is 2tfp, and the trip total is 6.5 due to ADG rig.

After flying the first leg and landing in Hou, scheduling calls and says "Hi Bob we need your help and need you to fly back to Dallas instead of deadheading because the pilot stayed in RSW last night and the cheap hotel we use has no running water or food available..."

The LCO is triggered for the reassignment so you will see an extra .5tfp. Your trip now pays 7.0tfp.

However, if your reassigned leg blocks in 1 minute later than originally scheduled, you will receive 1tfp extra since the reassigned leg is now outside the original footprint. Total pay is 7.5.
Might start seeing some American taxing speeds....
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Old 12-02-2023 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by hoover
I'm wondering how long it will take them to squash the reroute pay like they did premium?
Two totally different things. In fact, paying premium usually results in less reroutes. They hide trips and reroute to cover all the time when they could just be paying a relief player premium Scheduling will not change their ways unless they are forced to.

The last 2 or so years have been exceptional for getting premium open time. What we have seen in the last month or so reflects historical norms where reserves cover open time and open time bidders cover schedule irregularities which is 180 out from what it should be. Take a look at the hungry 180tfp captain mafia picking up sub rig straight pairings for evidence. This reminds me of being a mid seniority FO when they kept hiring through the max grounding and quit upgrading. That was fun.
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Old 12-02-2023 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols
Might start seeing some American taxing speeds....
I think we should see them now.
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Old 12-02-2023 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols
Might start seeing some American taxing speeds....
Or hopefully stop seeing CA’s slam on the brakes to make the first available turn off…effectively ruining the FO’s perfectly buttery smooth landing. 😏
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Old 12-02-2023 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PapaJaime
Or hopefully stop seeing CA’s slam on the brakes to make the first available turn off…effectively ruining the FO’s perfectly buttery smooth landing. 😏
Well….now that I upgraded I’ve seen a big reduction in those, just sayin!
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Old 12-03-2023 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by at6d
Well….now that I upgraded I’ve seen a big reduction in those, just sayin!
Same. Sadly, you have to un-teach it to FOs. My motto is "we will take the next one". Except at Burbank and SNA where the next one involves EMAS.
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Old 12-03-2023 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tenacvols
Might start seeing some American taxing speeds....
if some cpt flys fast, gets a short cut, or taxi fast and robs me of double time that person is getting throat punched.
it's like the dude who wont pop the brakes to get on the clock when you know you'll have overly because they're waiting for ground crew to find a working headset.
pro tip- you can still release the parking brake, hold the brakes for 3 sec then put it back on without the plane magically rolling away. That way you can start the clock.
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Old 12-03-2023 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by hoover
if some cpt flys fast, gets a short cut, or taxi fast and robs me of double time that person is getting throat punched.
it's like the dude who wont pop the brakes to get on the clock when you know you'll have overly because they're waiting for ground crew to find a working headset.
pro tip- you can still release the parking brake, hold the brakes for 3 sec then put it back on without the plane magically rolling away. That way you can start the clock.
One of the many wins of upgrading. You can control that. Agree with you, it's maddening. "I'm watching my block"
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Old 12-03-2023 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
One of the many wins of upgrading. You can control that. Agree with you, it's maddening. "I'm watching my block"
Yep. Upgrade and only have to deal with one a-hole captain. Me.
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Old 12-03-2023 | 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
One of the many wins of upgrading. You can control that. Agree with you, it's maddening. "I'm watching my block"
Who wins if he's watching his block but on rigged trip, but you're JA'd and you might overblock? Or... Captain releases the brake to get out on time while you're watching your block and you're on a rigged day or trip?

I think the moral is to be conscientious and sometimes there is not a win/win.
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