This. The new standard is 1:1 after 10 hours which stacks on top of other pay for the day. This is what has been teased by the NC. We shall see if they achieved it.
The NC specifically did not pursue a higher than .72 duty rig because it would have negative unintended consequences such as multiple aircraft swaps.

I like the stackable extended duty pay. It rewards you for being screwed with. Many times I have flown on premium pay, only to get barely over the rig after things go awry.

 

Yeah, that’s was I was going for. 1:1 on long duty days where it pays ABOVE the rig.

 

.74 and supposedly as a result of Delta and United they changed FP2020 and looked to get the same 1:1 over 10 hrs of duty. We shall see in a week or two.

 

The way I've read LCO is that it's there to get the comapny to stop rerouting us, not for us to make more money. I have a feeling a lot of the soft pay is going away and we'll do more legacy trips that have us flying 1 sitting 2 hrs flying another.
we could easily absorb thos with the extra manning we have now.
I'd look at this contract as if we all only make guarantee. are the tates etc good enough for you at only guarentee for your career?

 

I heard the same thing but it makes zero sense. They are, in most cases, financially incentivized to not reroute us now. Why would they change their behavior? I think the NCs insistence on using that language is to satisfy the "whoa is me, I am always on reserve, I didn't get my 15 hour columbus overnight that I bid on". I personally dab my tears with the hundred dollar bills they give me and move on.
LCO guarantees you will absolutely make more money in a reroute situation vs before when you could get rerouted in the footprint of your trip or have it absorbed by rigs and make nothing.
This airline would implode if they tried to run a legacy type schedule. We would be a couple thousand pilots and flight attendants short.

 

if the company can be disciplined about maintaining the schedule, which they can’t.

 

I'm wondering how long it will take them to squash the reroute pay like they did premium?

 

What is your understanding of LCO? I found this in the contract 2020 blueprint.

“The LCO proposal pays double time as an override for every leg that’s different from your original assignment and reports or releases outside of your original pairing footprint.”
(my bolding)

Looks like it has to be different “and” outside your footprint, which I assume is daily report/release. Is that how you read this?

 

Reassignment legs inside original pairing footprint pay a 50% premium override on top of the original pay.

Reassignment legs outside the original pairing footprint pay a 100% premium override on top of the original pay. The whole leg does not have to be outside to trigger this. If you get reassigned and the leg blocks in later (or starts earlier) than originally scheduled the 100% override will trigger for that leg and any others outside the footprint.

With ANY reassignment, you will ALWAYS make more money on top of the original pay. Rigs will no longer absorb work for no extra pay. There is lots of education on this coming soon.



Heres a practical example: You have a Dal-Hou-Dal turn with 1 fly leg and a deadhead return. Each leg pays 1 tfp. The leg total is 2tfp, and the trip total is 6.5 due to ADG rig.

After flying the first leg and landing in Hou, scheduling calls and says "Hi Bob we need your help and need you to fly back to Dallas instead of deadheading because the pilot stayed in RSW last night and the cheap hotel we use has no running water or food available..."

The LCO is triggered for the reassignment so you will see an extra .5tfp. Your trip now pays 7.0tfp.

However, if your reassigned leg blocks in 1 minute later than originally scheduled, you will receive 1tfp extra since the reassigned leg is now outside the original footprint. Total pay is 7.5.

 

Thank you! This helps a lot.