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#121
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and how many times did we say "wait for the language!" Here is the language and nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay. Premium pay for short notice callouts is base on the assignment time. Not your report time. And heavy traffic is now covered under the commuter rules.
a.
Premium pay on the first duty period and paid close-in parking will apply if a Reserve Pilot (including an embedded reserve) is assigned less than:
1) Two (2) hours notification to check-in to the domicile, or
2) Three (3) hours notification to check-in to the co-terminal, or
3) Two (2) hours from RAP start to check-in time to the domicile, or
4) Three (3) hours from RAP start to check-in time to the co-terminal.
In lieu of paid close-in parking, the Pilot may opt for taxi or premium ride share services.
Reimbursements will be in accordance with Section 3.A for reasonable costs (including tips) for each way.
If the Pilot reports after check-in time but within applicable time to report, he will be considered to have reported on time.
A Reserve Pilot who determines he will be unable to check-in in accordance with Section 13.M.1 due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., excessive traffic delays) will notify the Company as soon as possible. If the Company removes the Pilot from the assignment, he will continue his RAP.
a.
Premium pay on the first duty period and paid close-in parking will apply if a Reserve Pilot (including an embedded reserve) is assigned less than:
1) Two (2) hours notification to check-in to the domicile, or
2) Three (3) hours notification to check-in to the co-terminal, or
3) Two (2) hours from RAP start to check-in time to the domicile, or
4) Three (3) hours from RAP start to check-in time to the co-terminal.
In lieu of paid close-in parking, the Pilot may opt for taxi or premium ride share services.
Reimbursements will be in accordance with Section 3.A for reasonable costs (including tips) for each way.
If the Pilot reports after check-in time but within applicable time to report, he will be considered to have reported on time.
A Reserve Pilot who determines he will be unable to check-in in accordance with Section 13.M.1 due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., excessive traffic delays) will notify the Company as soon as possible. If the Company removes the Pilot from the assignment, he will continue his RAP.
Thanks for checking. Seems they are grasping for straws. It's ok to be a no voter. Just use the facts though.
#122
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A Reserve Pilot who determines he will be unable to check-in in accordance with Section 13.M.1 due to extenuating circumstances (e.g., excessive traffic delays) will notify the Company as soon as possible. If the Company removes the Pilot from the assignment, he will continue his RAP.
Are you so trusting of this company that you think they will pay you premium for that trip anyway?
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#123
weekends off? Nope...
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how would your scenario play out today? Don't forget the NS that'll be added to your board, even if you call...
#124
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The promises from all the co-terminal cheer leaders are Uber blacks driven by supermodels and premium for all pilots on reserve.
I simply stated it looks like you have to beat the call out to receive those.
You said "Here is the language and nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
I said "right there in the language it says you go back on reserve".
So it looks like the language you posted directly contradicts your claim that "nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
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#125
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The same fellas who complain about the price of food in the terminal.
Yeah, we have some real doozies at this airline. Culture, gag me.
#126
You seem to be missing the point.
The promises from all the co-terminal cheer leaders are Uber blacks driven by supermodels and premium for all pilots on reserve.
I simply stated it looks like you have to beat the call out to receive those.
You said "Here is the language and nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
I said "right there in the language it says you go back on reserve".
So it looks like the language you posted directly contradicts your claim that "nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
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The promises from all the co-terminal cheer leaders are Uber blacks driven by supermodels and premium for all pilots on reserve.
I simply stated it looks like you have to beat the call out to receive those.
You said "Here is the language and nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
I said "right there in the language it says you go back on reserve".
So it looks like the language you posted directly contradicts your claim that "nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
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Let’s say this morning you pick up a premium turn, and hit a traffic jam on the way to the airport, so you call scheduling and say “hey, I’m not going to make push”. So they say, “go home, we’ll cover it another way” and you go home. Do you still get premium for it?
#127
weekends off? Nope...
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 2,456
Likes: 176
You seem to be missing the point.
The promises from all the co-terminal cheer leaders are Uber blacks driven by supermodels and premium for all pilots on reserve.
I simply stated it looks like you have to beat the call out to receive those.
You said "Here is the language and nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
I said "right there in the language it says you go back on reserve".
So it looks like the language you posted directly contradicts your claim that "nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
.
The promises from all the co-terminal cheer leaders are Uber blacks driven by supermodels and premium for all pilots on reserve.
I simply stated it looks like you have to beat the call out to receive those.
You said "Here is the language and nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
I said "right there in the language it says you go back on reserve".
So it looks like the language you posted directly contradicts your claim that "nowhere does it say you'll lose the pay".
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and nowhere does it say you have to beat the callout time. You are grasping.
#128
it'll be interesting especially since NH get 2nd yr rates on everything they pick up now. That and ELLIT goes till 33 hrs before combined with reserve proffering. It might make it slim pickens for open time.
#129
At least until training bids. There’s gonna be so much overlap drop from that, and vacation shifts. The blanks are going to be stuffed with plenty left over in open time.
#130
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Joined: Mar 2018
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