I should have said options. In most cases SWA has 95% of all the flights in HOU and DAL. It's tough when your the only game in town, especially when it's AM/PM thing. Obviously it's where you live also. Off line is always a crap shoot but that's just another option.

 

Actually, I think the writing is on the wall that the pilot shortage has stabilized. I dont think we are in as competitive of a market as we were say a year ago, hence why I wished they filed for mediation sooner. All of that is besides the point in that hiring has slowed everywhere. In addition, this isnt a complete concession, the company had to offer a lot of stuff to get SWAPA to agree to it and honestly, I think making this work is what ultimantly wrapped up the contract and pushed it to a TA.
Agreed. I think these co-terminals will go senior once everyone figures them out. Hell if I can get a premium ride to/from work for a slightly longer drive, sign me up. Plus as mentioned earlier I think there are enough pilots that live north of MDW/HOU/DAL that will gladly take lines at their respective co-terminals.

This will be a big fat nothing burger for most of the pilots out there and a huge win for the ones that it helps.

Feel free to flame on now lol.

 

[QUOTE=Cyio;3746321]Actually, I think the writing is on the wall that the pilot shortage has stabilized. I dont think we are in as competitive of a market as we were say a year ago, hence why I wished they filed for mediation sooner. All of that is besides the point in that hiring has slowed everywhere. In addition, this isnt a complete concession, the company had to offer a lot of stuff to get SWAPA to agree to it and honestly, I think making this work is what ultimantly wrapped up the contract and pushed it to a TA.

Curious why you think the hiring spree is over? I agree it slowed but the big 3 retirements are still going to require a lot of hiring till 2030

 

[QUOTE=hoover;3746398]One of the airline management podcasts I listen to was just discussing this. It’s somewhat artificial, but they said it’s partially a result of the airlines reducing their flying a little bit seasonally, and partly a result of the GTF engine inspections on the NEO. They also attributed it to FedEx and UPS shedding some pilots. Those three things aren’t really creating a surplus, but they have slowed the attrition at the regionals which is allowing them to catch up with upgrades (it’s really a Captain shortage, not a pilot shortage at the regionals). Meanwhile the training pipeline is responding to the lucrative new contracts at the big 3 so student starts are way up. Plenty of pilots in the pipeline.

 

Exactly. These co-terminal lines are going to go extremely senior because of the commute options they'll open up.

 

You seem to be paraphrasing the restrictions.

The maximum of 20% only applies to hard lines. Company can construct the rest however they want. Good luck if you are a reserve!

Oh, and the premium and paid parking are only if you drive fast and make it to the airport before the time allowed for your callout. If crosstown traffic delays your arrival, you get nothing.

At least you only have one chance to vote no! All other bases can be opened to co-terminals with just a side letter from the board.

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Wait,., what? Can you explain?

The commuter clause was extended to people who drive to work in this contract, so there’s that. But it sounds like you’re saying they won’t reimburse close in parking at the coterminal if it takes longer than 3 hours to get there? Where did you read that? It sounds a little like BS. They’re not going to decline to reimburse you.

 

i dont know about the parking but I believe you lose the premium.
another question I have is sliding RAPs the company can use. They can slide your rap time if they need to cover flights. Ie move your am RAP from 0305 fo 0230 if they know they'll have some early AM flights to cover. This I believe will also get rid of your premium 1st day if they can give you more than 2hrs notice.
Here's a gem I heard SP say during a roadshow.
If you pick up a MOT that pays double or triple you'll keep that double etc pay even if you ELLIT it as long as it starts same day. So grab a 1 day that pays double and ELLIT it for a 3 day that starts same day and the whole thing pays double.
someone will have to check me on that.

 

Willing to bet you hear in the next month or so that SWA is slowing their 2024 hiring to 7-800 or so and slowing classes.

 

Dude. First rule of fight club.

The guys who read this stuff are gonna clean up for six months until the senior guys start to catch on. So keep the good deals on the down low.