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Old 01-05-2024 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Zman81
I am in Houston I live closer to IAH, co-terminals can’t come fast enough.
I think this is a very divisive win. I get that we extracted some value for this, but it benefits a small portion of the pilot group at a cost to the rest.
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Old 01-05-2024 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I think this is a very divisive win. I get that we extracted some value for this, but it benefits a small portion of the pilot group at a cost to the rest.
My position on it is that there are enough that are willing to bid in the other airport that those who want to avoid it can.
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Old 01-05-2024 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
Do you believe that?

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why wouldn't I? Just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean anyone is lying to you.
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Old 01-05-2024 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I think this is a very divisive win. I get that we extracted some value for this, but it benefits a small portion of the pilot group at a cost to the rest.
If it's a small portion that benefits, then it's a small cost to those who don't. You could also argue that paternity leave came at a cost to those who don't plan on having any more kids. Or the 5% RB those on disability will get, that reduces your RB by as much. Or the improvements to reserve that don't benefit line holders, directly. I can think of multiple changes in this TA that don't benefit me directly but in aggregate add up to make this TA what it is.

I'll be looking at the the reduced open time competition for trips in domicile from those holding out for co-terminal trips. As well as fewer people bidding the monthly lines in domicile I want as they look for the co-terminal lines.
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Old 01-05-2024 | 03:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
why wouldn't I? Just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean anyone is lying to you.

You didn't answer the question.

Do you believe what you wrote, that "polling data supporting DFW as a co-terminal by double those who opposed it"



Also, I don't live in Dallas so you can stop assigning viewpoints about whether I do or do not like a DFW co-terminal.

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Old 01-05-2024 | 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Zman81
I am in Houston I live closer to IAH, co-terminals can’t come fast enough.
as a commuter it would open up options as dfw, IAH and ord are options. Dal, hou and mdw; not so much.
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Old 01-05-2024 | 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Profane Kahuna
You didn't answer the question.

Do you believe what you wrote, that "polling data supporting DFW as a co-terminal by double those who opposed it"



Also, I don't live in Dallas so you can stop assigning viewpoints about whether I do or do not like a DFW co-terminal.

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yes I believe it. Why would I not?

and you've made it quite clear how you feel about co-terminals, long before we ever saw the details.
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Old 01-05-2024 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
If it's a small portion that benefits, then it's a small cost to those who don't. You could also argue that paternity leave came at a cost to those who don't plan on having any more kids. Or the 5% RB those on disability will get, that reduces your RB by as much. Or the improvements to reserve that don't benefit line holders, directly. I can think of multiple changes in this TA that don't benefit me directly but in aggregate add up to make this TA what it is.

I'll be looking at the the reduced open time competition for trips in domicile from those holding out for co-terminal trips. As well as fewer people bidding the monthly lines in domicile I want as they look for the co-terminal lines.

This logical thinking has no place in today's world. It's all about me and the volume of my howling against something. See, the louder I howl against it, the more right I am.... you didn't know that?
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Old 01-05-2024 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
yes I believe it. Why would I not?

Why would you fall for a statistic on something that was never asked about?


...."Do you believe what you wrote, that "polling data supporting DFW as a co-terminal by double those who opposed it".......

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Old 01-05-2024 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
I think this is a very divisive win. I get that we extracted some value for this, but it benefits a small portion of the pilot group at a cost to the rest.

Yep, not to mention giving in to a last minute company ask is a complete concession in the middle of the biggest pilot shortage in history.

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