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Old 01-03-2024 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by REF 5
99% of those who are yes or no voters are not going to change their minds during the roadshows. Most of of the people that go to those are usually the fustrasted 50. Did you you notice how small the crowd was? Most people have made up their mind already. Again, this contract is not perfect. But most were there to let their grievances be heard. Good for them for letting the NC know how they feel. They pay dues too. In the end though this will pass.
Those frustrated 50 (The uneducated crowd) just might shed some light on the inadequacies of this TA. Maybe give a few something to think about.
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Old 01-03-2024 | 12:37 PM
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Does anyone know if a video recording of the roadshow is going to be posted on Vimeo or YouTube?
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Old 01-03-2024 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Does anyone know if a video recording of the roadshow is going to be posted on Vimeo or YouTube?
Not sure on that, but when I clicked the emailed Teams link to the HOU one after it was over, it let me watch a recording of it, with rewind/fast-forward.
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Old 01-03-2024 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Those frustrated 50 (The uneducated crowd) just might shed some light on the inadequacies of this TA. Maybe give a few something to think about.
those 50 will always look for ways to be unhappy.. whether it’s a TA or life in general.
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Old 01-03-2024 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert
those 50 will always look for ways to be unhappy.. whether it’s a TA or life in general.
Another management shill. Boy there have been a lot of those new accounts in 2023.
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Old 01-03-2024 | 01:11 PM
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The presentation part of the roadshow was a waste of time. There should be required reading for anyone who attends or watches these things. The Q and A is where it's at, but that was sadly a little lacking and they definitely didn't get to online questions as I know a few people who submitted them and didn't get answered. This is, however, the first one, so hopefully it will get better as time goes on. I plan on watching the q and a tonight.
The guy who asked the first question was a complete moron. He asked the same stupid question 4 times before being politely asked to sit down and then asked yet another question. Do we not pre screen these dolts? His question was essentially bragging about how much money he made last year and then insinuating that SWAPA was somehow ruining his good thing with LCO and other overrides. Nice job, idiot.
A few of the questions were good, but there were also technical issues that made hearing them tough. The medical freedoms guy had to get his shots in (again, pun intended), but I don't really feel like he made a valid point. He is the dog who caught the car at this point and it's getting old. SWAPA and he both agree that federal title trumps anything and everything else and that none of this has been tested and won't be until the next pandemic, which hopefully will not happen in our lifetimes. The disability questions were great, I thought.
I do agree the NC was overall maybe a little defensive, but this is their baby so I get it. I am glad people are asking tough questions and I hope they keep asking them. The clearer the air the better.
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Old 01-03-2024 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Traffic Alert
those 50 will always look for ways to be unhappy.. whether it’s a TA or life in general.
There were more than 50.

All the seats filled up and more chairs had to be brought in to accomodate the crowd.

Vast majority of people were happy. Even the ones who asked the tough questions were pleasant about and joked around with Jody and the NC.

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Old 01-03-2024 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Palmtree Pilot
Another management shill. Boy there have been a lot of those new accounts in 2023.
He isn't completely wrong. There is a subset of pilots who can't wait to tell everyone how they voted no for the next 7-8 years. It's like part of their DNA.
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Old 01-03-2024 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Lewbronski
Does anyone know if a video recording of the roadshow is going to be posted on Vimeo or YouTube?
SWAPA said yes.

However, the audio visual crew apparently has brand new equipment, is traveling every day with the roadshow, and is trying to learn the gear and upload from the road.

Might want to hedge your bets and plan on attending until they get the bugs worked out.

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Old 01-03-2024 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by e6bpilot
... SWAPA and he both agree that federal title trumps anything and everything else and that none of this has been tested and won't be until the next pandemic, which hopefully will not happen in our lifetimes.
I'm sorry, but federal titles don't trump what is in an agreed upon contract that lives under the RLA. Ask the guys suing United, Hawaiian and Kalitta all with the same attorney, how hard it was to get the courts to see this was not an RLA regulated issue over a title 7 EEOC violation.

How do you think this company gets away with forcing you to work overtime on days off witch it is clearly a violation of Federal laws... its agreed to in a CBA under the RLA.
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