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01-22-2024 | 10:10 AM

#121

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Originally Posted by GoodJet

The 500 which is still in development would be a direct competetor to the 800NG or MAX 8

True, but that is years off. I am speaking of the 100 and the 300.

01-23-2024 | 12:23 AM

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The 500 which is still in development would be a direct competetor to the 800NG or MAX 8

Airbus has talked a lot about the A220-500 but it is not currently under development.

01-23-2024 | 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Airbus has talked a lot about the A220-500 but it is not currently under development.

It won't happen. It is also a direct competitor to the 320 family. They aren't going to spend the time and money producing two airplanes that do the same thing when they can just crank out 320s.

01-24-2024 | 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ

Is auto anti ice an option on the Max? It would make sense that our fearless leaders opted out to save a buck.

if you leave the anti-ice on while flying non icing conditions, it can melt the engine off the pylon. So the manual anti-ice isn’t even right in the max… the plane is a piece of junk

“Use of the engine anti-ice system in dry air for more than 5min, the FAA says, can cause overheating of the inlet inner barrel “beyond the material design limit”

https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/...154491.article

01-24-2024 | 08:50 PM

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The only "auto" systems on our 737's are the probe heats and the electric bus ties... everything else requires a ( now better paid) plumber.

01-25-2024 | 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 170Till5

Incorrect. It can potentially melt the cowl inlet off the engine, not the engine off the pylon. Doesn’t that make you feel more warm and fuzzy?

01-25-2024 | 05:39 AM

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Incorrect. It can potentially melt the cowl inlet off the engine, not the engine off the pylon. Doesn’t that make you feel more warm and fuzzy?

This. They are worried about engine ingestion of the melted cowl or it flying off and damaging the fuselage.

01-25-2024 | 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Airbus has talked a lot about the A220-500 but it is not currently under development.

Since they can't keep up with the demand for A320s and A321s - even before the MAX problems - they probably have no real sense of urgency about certifying an A220-500.

And when you have people building apps to let the public avoid flying the MAX

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The section of an Alaska Airlines flight that blew out mid-flight earlier this month. Photograph: APTravel & leisure

Online travel agent allows customers to filter out Boeing 737 Max planes

Kayak customers can exclude Max 9 aircraft after cabin panel blowout on Alaska Airlines flightAlex Hern
@alexhernTue 23 Jan 2024 10.12 ESTLast modified on Tue 23 Jan 2024 21

...there is even less incentive.

01-25-2024 | 06:24 AM

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This. They are worried about engine ingestion of the melted cowl or it flying off and damaging the fuselage.

idk how this plane got certified without lobbying congress… it’s trash

01-25-2024 | 09:12 AM

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idk how this plane got certified without lobbying congress… it’s trash

While I don't think it is "trash" as you call it, I do agree this aircraft should have died with the last generation. It took a lot of money I am sure to push this thing through but we are stuck with it now, just like Boeing and the FAA are stuck paying for all the crap wrong with it.