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10-10-2025 | 07:41 AM
#101
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First we did this to ourselves. Poor PM by mostly Captains got us to where we are today. Additionally, the new procedures look to be a mix of Skywest and Airtran stuff, and mostly industry standard. I does look super wordy, but not difficult - if this was how we did it from day one, nobody would be complaining now.
The primary driver of a new base is APL/pairing construction - geography doesn't isn't so much a factor. They will take a whole year of more efficient pairings and worry about 1-2 days of bad weather when it comes. At least with 3 bases in the area and many pilots they will be able to find many people to "help out" especially if they use the language where they can adjust the premium multiple.
The primary driver of a new base is APL/pairing construction - geography doesn't isn't so much a factor. They will take a whole year of more efficient pairings and worry about 1-2 days of bad weather when it comes. At least with 3 bases in the area and many pilots they will be able to find many people to "help out" especially if they use the language where they can adjust the premium multiple.
They’re gonna open a base where they want without any pilot input so it is what it is. I’m just rooting for the place that has the most likelihood of unringing the displacement mess out West and AUS isn’t it.
10-10-2025 | 07:47 AM
#102
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Funny, I have heard nothing of the sort. People love to hate on California, but that one state generates more revenue than any other for this company. There is a reason SWA is fiercely protective of their turf there. LAX is what it is. People love to fly there despite it being an awful airport. 5 carriers run hubs there without any of them controlling the market. It isn't going to change.
If we’re serious about Europe stuff we’d prob need something in NE (or a bigger jet).
10-10-2025 | 08:21 AM
#103
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Yeah we did the PM thing to ourselves. The 60 pg memo on how to set missed approach altitude is classic Air Force project pilots who don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Ask any RJ pilot how they did it or copy the manual from any other OAL to start with. Could’ve ended up where we are now years ago and with way less confusion.
They’re gonna open a base where they want without any pilot input so it is what it is. I’m just rooting for the place that has the most likelihood of unringing the displacement mess out West and AUS isn’t it.
They’re gonna open a base where they want without any pilot input so it is what it is. I’m just rooting for the place that has the most likelihood of unringing the displacement mess out West and AUS isn’t it.
10-10-2025 | 08:46 AM
#105
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Yeah we did the PM thing to ourselves. The 60 pg memo on how to set missed approach altitude is classic Air Force project pilots who don’t have a clue what they’re doing. Ask any RJ pilot how they did it or copy the manual from any other OAL to start with. Could’ve ended up where we are now years ago and with way less confusion.
We should have copied ATA's ETOPS stuff and American/Skywest procedures. (UAL/DL do weird stuff also).
10-10-2025 | 09:05 AM
#106
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From: cpt 737
seriously, I remember when I was flying freight in clapped out POS and JS on SW and saw the 6 pack on the NG display and said thats what my POS has. The guys didn't even know
10-10-2025 | 10:17 AM
#108
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I was jumpseating home and after the CA gave me the “you’re good, enjoy the flight”….I said…”wtf is that on your PFD?” They had a good laugh and no real good answer. Lol
10-10-2025 | 10:21 AM
#109
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I think it will be painful to implement, but much needed. We have issues. Ops day 2.0 shined a light on them. Don't be shocked when changes happen in response to events that could have ended the fun ride we are all enjoying.
If you haven't flown with "that guy" who will complain up a storm about this and have you carry them through CQT, just wait. They are the target audience even though they will never admit to it. They will blame the new hires.
If you haven't flown with "that guy" who will complain up a storm about this and have you carry them through CQT, just wait. They are the target audience even though they will never admit to it. They will blame the new hires.
10-10-2025 | 06:22 PM
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