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Old 10-10-2025 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Liberty
I’m thinking there is some shared blame there. Two extremes, one from each of these camps, get paired, bake at 350 for 15 minutes, and out comes a steaming hot Ops day. Thankfully, I think we have seen a change in the absurd hiring spree and are back to competitive applicants. Next, we need to clean up “those guys/gals” which are widely known but nothing seems to happen with them.
Aren’t you retired and not working at SWA?
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Old 10-11-2025 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by meahPilot
Aren’t you retired and not working at SWA?
Nah, the post in the other thread should have been a question mark in response to the retired guy trolling over there.
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Old 10-11-2025 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
My favorite SWA-ism is either putting a digital 6 pack on the PFD or removing auto throttles out of the classics cuz -200.
The 6-pack was also a thing at Continental when they got their NGs. It was for fleet commonality with their Classics as well. I’m not defending it but rather just pointing out that at least one other airline that I know of had to do it as they transitioned from Clasixs to NGs.
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Old 10-11-2025 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER
The 6-pack was also a thing at Continental when they got their NGs. It was for fleet commonality with their Classics as well. I’m not defending it but rather just pointing out that at least one other airline that I know of had to do it as they transitioned from Clasixs to NGs.
Yea I was jumpseating from ORD-MSP 20 years ago on united (or maybe it was continental?, I assume united) and they had some crazy digital 6 pack thing. It frightened young me.
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Old 10-11-2025 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by meahPilot
Yea I was jumpseating from ORD-MSP 20 years ago on united (or maybe it was continental?, I assume united) and they had some crazy digital 6 pack thing. It frightened young me.
20 years ago ORD-MSP would’ve been pre-merger United. They had only the -300/500 then.
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Old 10-11-2025 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mulcher
Also funny we didn’t have these issues 10 years ago.
Yeah we did.... we were overspeeding the sh!t outta the flaps because VNAV was something Chinese, or maybe Martian, and scaring the offline jumpseaters by setting zeros.

Also, just imagine the insanity that happens when you "accidentally" engage the second autopilot on an ILS... all kinds of crazy new FMA's show up. But instead, we got the "Dammit Chappy, I'm doing it my way" good sh!ts in Dallas, so we're stuck being the stud-muffins, probably the only ones left in the industry, who still hand-fly cat 3's while humming "One Vision."

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Old 10-11-2025 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
Yeah we did.... we were overspeeding the sh!t outta the flaps because VNAV was something Chinese, or maybe Martian, and scaring the offline jumpseaters by setting zeros.

Also, just imagine the insanity that happens when you "accidentally" engage the second autopilot on an ILS... all kinds of crazy new FMA's show up. But instead, we got the "Dammit Chappy, I'm doing it my way" good sh!ts in Dallas, so we're stuck being the stud-muffins, probably the only ones left in the industry, who still hand-fly cat 3's while humming "One Vision."
I would've bet a paycheck that before we started redeyes they would've implemented auto land. It's is stunning to me that you could have a crew fly all night long, then have the Captain hand fly a CatIII, attempting to see the HGS symbology washed out by the rising sun, while the poor FO just sits over there thinking "hope this guy/gal knows what they're doing."

Not to mention the clear benefit being that auto land also offers auto go-around - go arounds being another event that has in the past required the entirety of the pilot group to come to Dallas for a chat.
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Old 10-11-2025 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I would've bet a paycheck that before we started redeyes they would've implemented auto land. It's is stunning to me that you could have a crew fly all night long, then have the Captain hand fly a CatIII, attempting to see the HGS symbology washed out by the rising sun, while the poor FO just sits over there thinking "hope this guy/gal knows what they're doing."

Not to mention the clear benefit being that auto land also offers auto go-around - go arounds being another event that has in the past required the entirety of the pilot group to come to Dallas for a chat.
We were told during CAUG in 2023 that auto-land would in fact come before red eyes for the very reason you mention. But we all know how that turned out.

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Old 10-11-2025 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
I would've bet a paycheck that before we started redeyes they would've implemented auto land. It's is stunning to me that you could have a crew fly all night long, then have the Captain hand fly a CatIII, attempting to see the HGS symbology washed out by the rising sun, while the poor FO just sits over there thinking "hope this guy/gal knows what they're doing."

Not to mention the clear benefit being that auto land also offers auto go-around - go arounds being another event that has in the past required the entirety of the pilot group to come to Dallas for a chat.
Whoa whoa whoa Eeyore... that kind of thinking runs counter to the Warrior Spirit. Don't be a puss.... you can hand-fly a cat 3 after a redeye. Just remember, if you complain about sun in your face while you're trying to land, the "Dammit Chappy I'm doing it my way" bunch will tell you that you'll be in the soup eventually on a cat 3, so don't worry about it, and if you're really a HUD cripple like me, the first thing you should look for when you sit down is the HUD visor and if it's missing, you take a delay, you ground the plane, you kick, you scream, you whine and you take it all out on your FO.
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Old 10-11-2025 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by flyguy81
Doesn’t solve the problem of having a braking margin of 50’ in MDW when it’s snowing and you’ve got a loaded -800. In 10 yrs here the only Cat 3 I’ve ever shot is in the sim. AUS also does nothing to help unring the displacement ****storm out west.
There's margin built in to the margin, but you know that. We have an LTP for a reason, don't land past it.

The company doesn't care about displacements, so let's not act like that's a consideration with a new base. The latest company propaganda (Townhall) they stated basically that the displacements are a juniority problem and that there will always be junior people. Also, that would shorten the commute for a lot of folks.
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