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10-17-2025 | 01:32 PM

#171

e6bpilot

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Originally Posted by WHACKMASTER

Which begs the question…….if we got Dreamliners or a WB Airbus, how many of you would downgrade to fly it? (Assuming you couldn’t hold left seat yet).

For me it would depend on trip quality and relative seniority in seat as opposed to what I have now.

Depends a lot on pay/qol. Right now the biggest determiner for that is being on reserve or not and even that will probably change a bit with reserve ELITT.

Working 12-13 days a month flying mainly domestic only making what we do is pretty tall cotton. I have scratched the 9-10 hour flight/time zone hopping itch. Not so sure I would subject myself to that again without a big reason to. It was fine when I was young, bounced back, and never got a hangover. Europe was fun when I took my family or had squadron friends to hang with. Not so sure I would care to do it 30 times a year for 24 hours at a time.

10-17-2025 | 02:02 PM

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For me it would also depend on what domiciles that fleet would be in. I definitely wouldn't commute just for that.

10-17-2025 | 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CA1900

For me it would also depend on what domiciles that fleet would be in. I definitely wouldn't commute just for that.

meanwhile we got Dallas caps commuting to LAX just for the occasional HNL run 😂

10-17-2025 | 03:27 PM

#174

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Originally Posted by Socalpt6

meanwhile we got Dallas caps commuting to LAX just for the occasional HNL run 😂

I know one or two of them. The ones I know are very smart for it.

10-17-2025 | 03:28 PM

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Back to the thread title….

anyone hearing back yet from late Sept interviews?

was told a few Jan classes had been announced in the company.

10-17-2025 | 04:54 PM

#176

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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450

ok that checks. Now factor in your relative seniority and bidding power. No 11 year FO is flying much if anything at straight pay if they know the game even at a JV level…now you’re making 412/tfp vs 392 if counting the 20% add ons.

I’ll def be stalking some Sr FO boards to see what they’re up to next couple of months to see if it’d be worth it or not.

10-17-2025 | 08:44 PM

#177

Saint41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck Hawg

Back to the thread title….

anyone hearing back yet from late Sept interviews?

was told a few Jan classes had been announced in the company.

Shoot. How about hearing back for a September class. <30 days and not a word from the company about anything

10-17-2025 | 11:11 PM

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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard

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Originally Posted by Tenacvols

. Year 9 and above FO pay is 30% below Captain pay. So you’d have to average 30% more TFP to make the same amount of money.

No, FO pay is 30% lower, so 0.7 of captain pay. So you have to work 1/0.7 = 43% more to make the same amount of money.
I'll give you an easy example. If you take a 50% pay cut you need to work twice as much, so 100% more, to make the same....

10-18-2025 | 03:19 AM

#179

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Originally Posted by symbian simian

Yeah….

340 x 120 =40,800x1.2=48,960
48,960/238=205.71/1.2=171.425

For an 11 yr CA that flies 120/mo…they’d have to work 40% more to earn the same if downgrading. Not sure that’s feasible in the slow mos but could be wrong. 120 is easy all year long.

10-18-2025 | 04:48 AM

#180

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Originally Posted by flyguy81

its not “work 40% more”… it’s “fly trips that pay 40% more”

trust me, thats not that hard. senior FOs been making captain money for years here. Time to start paying attention…