Columbia

Nope-no cheering at ALL. What Delta needs is for SWA to "get rid of" AT. Many industry experts have been saying since the merger announcement that having SWA come in to ATL will be beneficial for all as they will no longer have to deal with "stupid fare wars." SWA will actually price fares up where they need to be. AT has been desperate with cheap, stupid fares, leading to bleeding for all involved.
From a pilot leverage perspective, having AT FOs now get paid what DL CAs make will only help during negotiations. Get it done and quick. No kidding.

NuGuy

The success of the DAL/NWA merger is more of a product of the demographics rather that any particular nuance of the process or skill of the participants. It just so happened that there was a tolerable solution when the standard tricks were applied. Had it happened a few years earlier, it would probably have been done over a weekend.

If you have disparate demographics, then the taks becomes MUCH more difficult, ...by orders of magnitude.

Nu

Elvis90

Good point Nu.

shiznit

Definitely no cheering on the DAL side. All I personally want is to see pilots getting paid as much as possible to compensate them for the tremendous amount of responsibility they bear. And for the next group of pilots to negotiate upon the success of the previous one(Much like the "top 5" managers get to "pattern up" their compensation based off of other executives).

Just don't try to screw your new co-workers is all I ask at this time since unfortunately you guys are near the top rung of the ladder right now.... so there's not much room for you to move the rungs higher right now.

shiznit

True............

forgot to bid

No cheering. That blows.

Columbia is right, we as Delta pilots would love for this to go a lot better. Worse case scenario is the whole idea of a merger is dropped. That would hurt.

I thought they'd just put something together and let people vote? Not even that? I mean if FL pilots want to vote in a partial staple that's their business but I thought it be proffered in a vote.

Why would it be in melt down mode btw? Pilot feedback or ALPA or SWAPA or SWA?

I wonder if DOH would work and then come up with some wacky, or fancy, fences and triggers?

Good point. It'd probably had to have been pre 9/11? It'd been an interesting merger back then. The chances for a UsAir situation would've been a lot higher than it was for us in 08.

In 08/09 the SLI might have been a headache but the direction of the economy flung us together with very little friction.

MatthewAMEL

Folks, it bears repeating because it seems to have been missed.

The SLI isn't in 'meltdown' mode. Both MC's are wisely refusing to give out any information about the Agreement In Principle until the details are agreed upon and the language is vetted.

And how could a negotiated agreement be in 'meltdown' mode anyway? If we can't agree, then we go to arbitration. It's all spelled out in the Process Agreement.

It's going to be at least another week before the details are released and the agreement is road showed/put out for a vote.

bmpilot

Who did you hear that from?

bmpilot

Ding ding ding weiner weiner chicken dinner.
OK sorry took the flame but too funny

johnso29

Pay rates & work rules come and go, but seniority can be forever.