LuvJockey

That is true only when both carriers are ALPA, and the arbitrators are using ALPA policy. It's the whole ALPA paradigm thing again.

I can see why they would like it to be considered a career enhancement as far as career expectations go, but reality is that when given the choice of bigger vs. smaller aircraft on the same pay scale (such as UPS), the size of the aircraft holds no value to the pilot. They pretty much bid for wherever they can hold the schedule/trips/base that they want.

My watch is enormous.

OscartheGrouch

TS,

Even the casual observer realizes you seem to be having fun. The "investment" that folks here at SWA have is what I don't think some seem to get. That investment is not a type rating, it is more like buying into a system that rewards those who want to "work harder" while enjoying themselves. I am not taking anything away from those that have chosen to go to a different carrier. We just have something that is a bit different. That investment is what most of the SWA folks are talking about.

Things are a changin' though! Just had to point out to a CA today that his FO had a bad attitude today when we stole their plane when ours was unflyable. I understand when things happen to go in an unexpected manner but don't express yourself when others who have it worse are listening. Works for every airline not just SWA.

Keep having fun TS. Nothing lasts forever.

The Oscar

P. S. The number of posts thingy? Maybe I am just a little jealous that you have so much time to express yourself.

80ktsClamp

Hey man with a giant watch... you just made a great argument for a pure relative integration.

Swa717

I have a big watch. It is a Casio G-Shock..

tsquare

Hollow argument homey wrt SWA.. since there is only ONE equipment type... well duuuuuh the pay is gonna be the same. But that isn't the question nor the issue at hand now is it? And since you keep dragging me into it, it is not about airplane size as far as I am personally concerned. I have been debt free since 2003, so money also isn't the issue. LuvJock can hold up his watch which is really amusing since he obviously doesn't get the whole metaphor there... I fly the -ER because I like the mission. I like long haul international, but more than that, I like the destinations. I have no interest in the 747 or A330, but I have that option if I so choose. I have 5000 hours in the left seat of the 737... been there done that. I have other choices. And like Oscar said, things are a changing. I totally get what he said about buying into a system.. Back when the Delta Family existed.. so did I. You and Luvjock need to come down off your high horse and realize it isn't all about YOU.. that system of which he (Oscar) speaks is changing. Embrace it or you are going to be a very bitter man. If you don't though, I don't care, you will continue to provide more entertainment for a few more months.

Bless your heart....

shiznit

Ummm.

IBT/FAPA/ALPA/UTU integration anyone?

paxhauler85

Nah, I've just been pulling the Delta oar (at a DAL only regional) and get to deal with the gate agents, rampers, F/As and pilots on a daily basis.

I commute on SWA and get treated like royalty by them weekly. They treat the paying passengers better than me.

You'll never see what you don't want to, so I won't bother telling you more. The Delta product is average at best, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. My career depends on the DAL product being a good one (otherwise the hand that feeds us will die), and I still feel this way.

I'd be willing to bet I'm not the only one who sees things the way I do.

buzzpat

I'm a DAL pilot who flies frequently on SWA, most of the time as a paying customer because they serve my wife's hometown and DAL doesn't go direct. Honestly, I don't see much difference in how the employees of one or the other company treat customers. Some crews are great, some are average, and some suck....for both companies. There are pros and cons for each company. DAL's product is better in some regards, and worse in some regards. It depends on the equipment, the route, the duration of the flight, etc.

I'm excited about SWA moving into ATL because, at last, we'll both be playing on the same field and the differences will be apparent. I'm also interested in the SLI outcome because it'll be fun to watch someone else have to go through it...and not me. Yeah, I'm like that.

1Seat 1Engine

You have 4000+ posts, no one seems to be dragging you back into anything. Tell you what, how about you refrain from posting until I post! I'm willing to make that sacrifice!
If you've been debt free since 2003, money MUST be your issue! I'd vote to send you to congress!
I think LuvJock is the one making the watch jokes. You're the one who's refusing to laugh.
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I lost count
Ironic, considering that in the previous quote, you used the word "I" eleven times in only six sentences! (Although I must admit, with your overuse of elipses (...'s) it's hard to tell where your sentences begin and end)

So riddle-me this TSquare; what do you think the AIP is going to look like?

LuvJockey

I think that 1 Seat has tsquare pegged pretty well.


I can understand why you'd want a train wreck WRT SWA's SLI AIP. Good news is that while that battle might be over, you'll soon be able to witness the annual train wreck that is Tennessee Volunteer Football.

I am sure that you're a lot of fun to fly with on those long legs, a high-spirited, jovial, veritable barrel o' laughs. Every conversation that you have here seems to degenerate. I have no idea why your Delta buddies show you so much deference, but I see no reason for it. I guess that I just don't know who I'm talking to.

Here's another gem in the SWA contract - First Officers can avoidance bid Captains. Try to get those double-breasted-hotel-van-admirals like tsquare over there to sign off on that one!