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Old 02-24-2017 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Picketing once a month at the negotiating location. We need more press
Que the apologist saying it's illegal.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 04:22 PM
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The Alpa lawyers said absolutely not. It could be seen as interfering with normal hiring operations. I get it and the MEC really wanted to do it but it's not going to happen.

Blame the railway labor act.
Never mind. Beat me too it.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Never mind. Beat me too it.
So if it interrupts normal hiring then isn't Aerocrew and Spirit being involved in "pay to play"?
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Old 02-24-2017 | 04:38 PM
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I think it's in everybody's best interest to keep things legal. There are plenty of options within those bounds that are not being utilized. One of which was alluded to in today's fastread.

We have to somehow get pilots to care enough and rally around the cause in real meaningful ways.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
I think out NC is getting rolled and the company is laughing all the way to the bank. That's what's happening.
At this point I have zero faith in the NC and zero faith in the company. Our only hope is the mediator and the RLA process
Care to explain what in depth knowledge you have that the NC is getting rolled? Please do tell all of us what you think you would do in their position since you seem to have information the rest of us don't.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by A320ULCC
Care to explain what in depth knowledge you have that the NC is getting rolled? Please do tell all of us what you think you would do in their position since you seem to have information the rest of us don't.
Here's my in depth knowledge. Ready for it?
THE RESULTS
or lack there of.
I also don't believe there is a soul that could do it any better. Theyre just outmatched by a labor crushing management. Getting rolled since early focused negotiations.

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Old 02-24-2017 | 06:20 PM
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Since we are doing out of base PUB events how about Fargo? Lots of unity building to be done there.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 07:25 PM
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If people would stop picking up open time, the problem would solve itself. Unity is the barrier.
Wonder what it will take for this group to finally say enough is enough.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
Here's my in depth knowledge. Ready for it?
THE RESULTS
or lack there of.
I also don't believe there is a soul that could do it any better. Theyre just outmatched by a labor crushing management. Getting rolled since early focused negotiations.

That's the nature of the game. The negotiating team only has the power to suggest, cajole, beg, or plead to get a contract. It is stacked completely in managment's favor. Only when management wants something from us will it happen. On the other hand, when we get released, we will have all the power. Mgmt will only have the power to suggest, beg, etc. Eventually the mediator will get tired of their games. It's just going to take a while longer. As a previous poster said, barring shareholder involvement, I don't think we'll get a contract without being released.
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Old 02-24-2017 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Since we are doing out of base PUB events how about Fargo? Lots of unity building to be done there.
I thought I recognized you there, sporting that SPIRIT 10 yr anniversary lanyard. I love things. Looking forward to the event in Carlsbad.
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