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Old 03-30-2017 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by OneEyedMonster
Ding Ding Ding.....Its nice to see someone who understands it.



Ahhh...so if for example the company wanted to modify transition, the NC could say "ok, well we would have to increase our ask because that is a concession"....Wow...I wonder if the NC thought of that angle...maybe Gunga isn't as smart as he claims to be.



If I am selling my house for $200,000 and the buyer says "ok, now you need to leave the furniture in the house," my selling price doesnt go down, it goes up. If they do not like the house price with the furniture added, then we will remove the furniture and we are back to the home price. Im setting the benchmark as the seller and we are adjusting off that price for any additions someone wants on the house, which raises the price.



Why would someone think the NC is going to come in at standard and then be prepared to drop off that number while giving into work rule demands from the company? That is, in essence, what people claim will happen when "meeting in the middle."


This is exactly correct!
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Old 03-30-2017 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
Hard to disagree with this. However it's not in the zone of reasonableness so the lower the better to show the mediator what she's working with. I'd rather they just ask for a pay cut and get this show on the road with a strike vote and the rest of the inevitable stuff
You'll be surprised how wide is the mediator's "zone of reasonableness"....
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Old 03-30-2017 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
Hard to disagree with this. However it's not in the zone of reasonableness so the lower the better to show the mediator what she's working with. I'd rather they just ask for a pay cut and get this show on the road with a strike vote and the rest of the inevitable stuff
Ha! We just better hope the NC doesn't send any garbage like that out for a vote

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Old 03-30-2017 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gunga Din
Ha! We just better hope the NC doesn't send any garbage like that out for a vote
If they do then we need to be prepared to vote for a strike and to replace the NC.
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Old 03-30-2017 | 12:01 PM
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I bet they come back w jet blue rates
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Old 03-30-2017 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by NFjt
I bet they come back w jet blue rates
I bet they come back with nothing. They'd be perfectly justified in the eyes of the mediator to insist on tackling each section by itself versus submitting a comprehensive counter-offer. There will be no company proposal that includes multiple CBA sections in one submission.
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Old 03-30-2017 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
I bet they come back with nothing. They'd be perfectly justified in the eyes of the mediator to insist on tackling each section by itself versus submitting a comprehensive counter-offer. There will be no company proposal that includes multiple CBA sections in one submission.
Unfortunately, I bet this is the way it goes. They're going to drag this out as long as possible.
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Old 03-30-2017 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by THR IDLE
Unfortunately, I bet this is the way it goes. They're going to drag this out as long as possible.


At least until this happens....

http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/ne...-ipo-soon.html
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Old 03-30-2017 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
I bet they come back with nothing. They'd be perfectly justified in the eyes of the mediator to insist on tackling each section by itself versus submitting a comprehensive counter-offer. There will be no company proposal that includes multiple CBA sections in one submission.


Actually this sounds about right.
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Old 03-30-2017 | 08:49 PM
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The company will come back with some low ball offer and claim it's broke and can't pay what the "others" are paying!! "We just don't have the money" to pay. Cry poor! Just go fly your line and nothing more.
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