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Ding Ding Ding.....Its nice to see someone who understands it.
Ahhh...so if for example the company wanted to modify transition, the NC could say "ok, well we would have to increase our ask because that is a concession"....Wow...I wonder if the NC thought of that angle...maybe Gunga isn't as smart as he claims to be.
If I am selling my house for $200,000 and the buyer says "ok, now you need to leave the furniture in the house," my selling price doesnt go down, it goes up. If they do not like the house price with the furniture added, then we will remove the furniture and we are back to the home price. Im setting the benchmark as the seller and we are adjusting off that price for any additions someone wants on the house, which raises the price.
Why would someone think the NC is going to come in at standard and then be prepared to drop off that number while giving into work rule demands from the company? That is, in essence, what people claim will happen when "meeting in the middle."
Ahhh...so if for example the company wanted to modify transition, the NC could say "ok, well we would have to increase our ask because that is a concession"....Wow...I wonder if the NC thought of that angle...maybe Gunga isn't as smart as he claims to be.

If I am selling my house for $200,000 and the buyer says "ok, now you need to leave the furniture in the house," my selling price doesnt go down, it goes up. If they do not like the house price with the furniture added, then we will remove the furniture and we are back to the home price. Im setting the benchmark as the seller and we are adjusting off that price for any additions someone wants on the house, which raises the price.
Why would someone think the NC is going to come in at standard and then be prepared to drop off that number while giving into work rule demands from the company? That is, in essence, what people claim will happen when "meeting in the middle."
This is exactly correct!
#602
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Hard to disagree with this. However it's not in the zone of reasonableness so the lower the better to show the mediator what she's working with. I'd rather they just ask for a pay cut and get this show on the road with a strike vote and the rest of the inevitable stuff
#603
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Hard to disagree with this. However it's not in the zone of reasonableness so the lower the better to show the mediator what she's working with. I'd rather they just ask for a pay cut and get this show on the road with a strike vote and the rest of the inevitable stuff
Last edited by Gunga Din; 03-30-2017 at 10:00 AM.
#606
I bet they come back with nothing. They'd be perfectly justified in the eyes of the mediator to insist on tackling each section by itself versus submitting a comprehensive counter-offer. There will be no company proposal that includes multiple CBA sections in one submission.
#607
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I bet they come back with nothing. They'd be perfectly justified in the eyes of the mediator to insist on tackling each section by itself versus submitting a comprehensive counter-offer. There will be no company proposal that includes multiple CBA sections in one submission.
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I bet they come back with nothing. They'd be perfectly justified in the eyes of the mediator to insist on tackling each section by itself versus submitting a comprehensive counter-offer. There will be no company proposal that includes multiple CBA sections in one submission.
Actually this sounds about right.
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