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04-14-2017 | 01:35 PM
#752
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Nope. I'm cool. We'll fight this one out instead of hanging our heads low and pretending there aren't things we can do. Some of us just need to sack up and do them. If you don't have the guts to fight then don't but don't spew garbage that demoralizes the pilot group. That's exactly what they want. Put your big girl pants on and let's get a contract we can be proud of.
Stop calling for paper work
Fly your line
And anything else you can think of.
What a bunch of PUSSIES some of you are.
Stop calling for paper work
Fly your line
And anything else you can think of.
What a bunch of PUSSIES some of you are.
04-14-2017 | 02:25 PM
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It baffles me that we still have guys that want to single engine taxi. The last excuse I got was there might be a line out there, and we might be short on gas. There is a solution to this: taxi out, if you don't have enough gas go back to the gate and get more gas.
04-14-2017 | 04:57 PM
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Health care less than the FAs?! Lowest compensation package in the industry. This is what we are worth. And yet we can't wear a lanyard, not take that phone call, not run for paperwork...
04-14-2017 | 05:02 PM
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I am not here to fight or argue with you but can you find those direct quotes from the NC update less demoralizes the pilot group than my perspective?
“This week, bargaining was scheduled to begin on Monday. However, bargaining was delayed until the following day due to COO JB’ absence from the bargaining table.”
“Together, these presentations asserted that the ULCC model, and Spirit specifically, could not support ALPA’s package proposal.”
“The simplest way to characterize the Company’s March 15th proposal is that our medical plan would be inferior to any plan offered to our peers or even our flight attendants.”
“Simply put, rather than industry-standard, Spirit proposed bottom of the industry.” note: this one was bolded!
“it is difficult to overstate how lacking the Negotiating Committee found the Company’s proposal.”
“Spirit management continues to argue that we should work for less than our professional colleagues and that we must now “buy” bottom of the industry pay rates by generating offsets that fund those increases.”
“This week, bargaining was scheduled to begin on Monday. However, bargaining was delayed until the following day due to COO JB’ absence from the bargaining table.”
“Together, these presentations asserted that the ULCC model, and Spirit specifically, could not support ALPA’s package proposal.”
“The simplest way to characterize the Company’s March 15th proposal is that our medical plan would be inferior to any plan offered to our peers or even our flight attendants.”
“Simply put, rather than industry-standard, Spirit proposed bottom of the industry.” note: this one was bolded!
“it is difficult to overstate how lacking the Negotiating Committee found the Company’s proposal.”
“Spirit management continues to argue that we should work for less than our professional colleagues and that we must now “buy” bottom of the industry pay rates by generating offsets that fund those increases.”
The company is proposing a cost neutral industry bottom contract disguised as "raises". Bendoritis did this with the flight attendants and it's why he was hired. This should be no surprise.
Now get fired up!!!!
04-14-2017 | 05:48 PM
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Yes, thank you for the sarcasm. I couldn't remember if we had something in our contract or not. It's just ALPA merger policy. I was responding to someone who was concerned that a merger would drag negotiations out further. If a merger happens, I was trying to convey that your management will be financially incentivized to get everyone on board (Pilots included) and will be good for progress in your negotiations. I apologize for participating.
04-14-2017 | 07:04 PM
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Contract Negotiations room
I for one will ramp up my support on the road for first year guys who stand united with us
04-14-2017 | 07:10 PM
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04-14-2017 | 07:34 PM
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Yes, thank you for the sarcasm. I couldn't remember if we had something in our contract or not. It's just ALPA merger policy. I was responding to someone who was concerned that a merger would drag negotiations out further. If a merger happens, I was trying to convey that your management will be financially incentivized to get everyone on board (Pilots included) and will be good for progress in your negotiations. I apologize for participating.
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