We got an AIP!
01-15-2018 | 11:31 AM
#341
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All fair assessments except the 401k
This isn’t not a small 401k increase. An 11% Increasing to 15% DC is much different than a 9% match. If you are under 50 the max the company will ever give you is $18.5k this year. It is not 9% of everything you make like a DC. A DC is a percentage of everything you make and a substantial improvement to our current retirement.
This isn’t not a small 401k increase. An 11% Increasing to 15% DC is much different than a 9% match. If you are under 50 the max the company will ever give you is $18.5k this year. It is not 9% of everything you make like a DC. A DC is a percentage of everything you make and a substantial improvement to our current retirement.
01-15-2018 | 11:32 AM
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Just a few things to think about.
- On our pilot calls they said if we took PBS more pay would come?
- Look at the percentage of increase our CEO receive for his pay increase?
- If we can't compare our selves to the Legacies how about Alaskan?
- When you make a big investment like buying a car do you take the first deal they bring to you?
When you vote on this contract think about those things and are we still low cost pilot?
- On our pilot calls they said if we took PBS more pay would come?
- Look at the percentage of increase our CEO receive for his pay increase?
- If we can't compare our selves to the Legacies how about Alaskan?
- When you make a big investment like buying a car do you take the first deal they bring to you?
When you vote on this contract think about those things and are we still low cost pilot?
This is not the first deal brought to us. This is a result of 3 years of back and forth.
01-15-2018 | 11:38 AM
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01-15-2018 | 11:43 AM
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Why is anyone replying to this redneck, 50 yr old SWA F/O. Put this angry elf on your ignore list.
A bunch of wannabes driving a yellow bus wanting to play in the big leagues. Act like little boys and management surely treats you as such. Youthful inexperience at its best. My buddies at F&H just laugh and laugh and laugh.
Amateur hour at the big yellow house (I mean bus).
Amateur hour at the big yellow house (I mean bus).
01-15-2018 | 12:47 PM
#349
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First off congrats on getting to the point of an AIP it means that the Company offer has improved enough that the NC and the MEC feel that it is worth bringing to you for a vote. Your vote is extremely important. It may effect your entire career. Remember it is your vote.
Take into account work rule changes that may or may not be regained once lost. Sit down with the full TA language and read it all, digest it a bit and read it again with a notebook, pen, and calculator handy. Do the math until you have flashbacks of High School Math homework. Ask your coworkers about how they feel about it, go to the roadshow events, ask questions, call or write your NC or MEC officers, don’t take disagreements personally, try to gain perspective from pilots that are in a different financial position than you are and realize that you may have different objectives with regards to where you are at in your life. Realize some have been beaten up by the industry while others haven’t. You may or may not wish to share your yes or no vote and that is fine. Talk to your spouse, SO, friends etc and ask for their opinion. Lastly remember that the leverage you hold is very real right now and if they can’t fill classes and eventually start to cancel flights they will come to you with improvements over the current offer. Is waiting a gamble? Maybe.
Really we wish all of our fellow pilots at Spirit the best. Good luck guy and gals.
Take into account work rule changes that may or may not be regained once lost. Sit down with the full TA language and read it all, digest it a bit and read it again with a notebook, pen, and calculator handy. Do the math until you have flashbacks of High School Math homework. Ask your coworkers about how they feel about it, go to the roadshow events, ask questions, call or write your NC or MEC officers, don’t take disagreements personally, try to gain perspective from pilots that are in a different financial position than you are and realize that you may have different objectives with regards to where you are at in your life. Realize some have been beaten up by the industry while others haven’t. You may or may not wish to share your yes or no vote and that is fine. Talk to your spouse, SO, friends etc and ask for their opinion. Lastly remember that the leverage you hold is very real right now and if they can’t fill classes and eventually start to cancel flights they will come to you with improvements over the current offer. Is waiting a gamble? Maybe.
Really we wish all of our fellow pilots at Spirit the best. Good luck guy and gals.
01-15-2018 | 01:16 PM
#350
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First off congrats on getting to the point of an AIP it means that the Company offer has improved enough that the NC and the MEC feel that it is worth bringing to you for a vote. Your vote is extremely important. It may effect your entire career. Remember it is your vote.
Take into account work rule changes that may or may not be regained once lost. Sit down with the full TA language and read it all, digest it a bit and read it again with a notebook, pen, and calculator handy. Do the math until you have flashbacks of High School Math homework. Ask your coworkers about how they feel about it, go to the roadshow events, ask questions, call or write your NC or MEC officers, don’t take disagreements personally, try to gain perspective from pilots that are in a different financial position than you are and realize that you may have different objectives with regards to where you are at in your life. Realize some have been beaten up by the industry while others haven’t. You may or may not wish to share your yes or no vote and that is fine. Talk to your spouse, SO, friends etc and ask for their opinion. Lastly remember that the leverage you hold is very real right now and if they can’t fill classes and eventually start to cancel flights they will come to you with improvements over the current offer. Is waiting a gamble? Maybe.
Really we wish all of our fellow pilots at Spirit the best. Good luck guy and gals.
Take into account work rule changes that may or may not be regained once lost. Sit down with the full TA language and read it all, digest it a bit and read it again with a notebook, pen, and calculator handy. Do the math until you have flashbacks of High School Math homework. Ask your coworkers about how they feel about it, go to the roadshow events, ask questions, call or write your NC or MEC officers, don’t take disagreements personally, try to gain perspective from pilots that are in a different financial position than you are and realize that you may have different objectives with regards to where you are at in your life. Realize some have been beaten up by the industry while others haven’t. You may or may not wish to share your yes or no vote and that is fine. Talk to your spouse, SO, friends etc and ask for their opinion. Lastly remember that the leverage you hold is very real right now and if they can’t fill classes and eventually start to cancel flights they will come to you with improvements over the current offer. Is waiting a gamble? Maybe.
Really we wish all of our fellow pilots at Spirit the best. Good luck guy and gals.
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