Pretty easy to avoid the fake 3 and 4 day trips. I’ve only ever done the fake 3 days on X list calls. And my base quite a few of them.

 

All dependent on your seat, base and seniority in seat. Get near the bottom of lineholders and these are going to be a lot of what you're going to get. X list call, sure I don't care.
I live in base but would prefer to have the previous high credit 4 days. Easy to credit 85 with 14 or 15 off. Not anymore.

 

So being junior means you get the leftover trips?

Wow. Wow!

And with a 3.5 duty rig, for a “4” day to credit 15 hours, the TAFB has to be less than 52.5 hours. So it means your report time will be at or after 1930 on day 1. A lot of guys like these trips because it’s an easy commute in day 1

In the end, pairing construction is like hotel preferences, every pilot wants what works for them.

 

You guys are pretty dumb. I guess you like these 10 hour 3 days. If you're senior enough to get out of all of them then great, I wouldn't give a *&^% either and what you are saying here would then make more sense. Apparently, like reserve, the union didn't see any value in getting rid of the 'duty period' credit scheme.

 

Can someone rank the Spirit bases from largest to smallest (most crews to least crews)? Just curious. Thanks.

 

fll/mia
mco
las
dtw
dfw
ord
atl
iah
acy

 

No, we aren’t dumb. Start at 11p, home at 8a…. Do 8 a month, 8 days TAFB. Who cares where you sleep, you’re sleeping! Home pretty much 5 full days a week. Stop calling it “3 days of work” for a trip that has 12 hours of duty and 36 hours TAFB. If I didn’t commute or was allowed to do those 3 days back to back with overlap, I would definitely do these all day long, but I don’t want to commute 8 times a month, so I do 4 18 hr 4 days that are super commutable.
Pairings don’t just exist, they are optimized for the rules. Going to calendar day will definitely get rid of late shows and early finishes. And getting rid of per duty period pay will get rid of long layovers. That might be exactly what you prefer, and if so, try SWA. I like QOL on the road, and have no interest in every trip being crammed with short layovers and full days, just to get home exhausted.

 

Any update on how long to hold ATL as a new hire FO?

 

From the JB thread. Average 9 YEARS to hold a line on the 320, excluding MCO where it takes 16……. And even on their SNB it takes longer than 320 at most of our bases.
Anyone thinking the merger will be good for career progression at NK needs to take a good look.
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I for one am really praying that this merger doesn’t go through. I know I’m probably one of the few but being a 10 year top 30 percent captain in MCO doesn’t really make me think this will be a good thing.