SSlow

You know what else works?

Cut the sugary crap out of your diet. Exercise and maintain a healthy BMI. Eat non-processed food. Quit smoking and slow down on the booze.

The government wants to keep harping on bandaid measures without actually addressing the real problem: the majority of American adults are not healthy despite being warned for decades by medical professionals. We have had an ongoing healthy crisis for many years, way before COVID-19, causing many people to die each year and most probably never noticed. This virus is just a new face and both the leftist media and politicians have capitalized big time on it.

Yes, COVID-19 is serious but have you seen the numbers on heart disease?? They are not even in the same ballpark, not even close. If the government actually cared about the safety of the general population, then they would have been actively addressing those other issues.

I will wear the mask if it restores the flying public's confidence in air travel, but don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.

YourMom

Here is some science and good information from an ER doctor:
https://youtu.be/uIGdv-TybUk

Someone asked what is the number of infected/ deaths to shut down the economy: Well it would have to be more than the amount of deaths caused by shutting down the economy. Such as suicide rate increases, lost jobs and depression, more family violence, and the amount of people not going in for regular care and screening of cancer/ heart disease treatment. So let's take heart disease which killed 647,000 in 2018. If COVID becomes higher than that maybe we should shut it down. But on the other hand should we force all people with heart disease to eat salads and only salads? It would probably save their lives and be safer for them. Can we force people to only eat vegetables? Way less deaths. No that sounds insane right?

I have seen dementia in my family, I know what it looks like. Besides his 100s of gaffs and messed up numbers https://youtu.be/ve8kE4SXXTs
He is a little creepy, where is the me2 movement? Silent. It's really sad his family is letting him continue to run. He barely appears in public anymore, said he is being tested all the time, where are the results? If you don't have a though about his cognitive abilities you have some cognitive problems too. Watch he won't even debate Trump because it would be such a disaster. Turn off CNN and think a little.

NotAHobby7

Wholeheartedly agree with your opinion on the general health of our country. A healthier population is more resistant to disease, cheaper, more productive, happier, etc. However, to change that is a huge undertaking and involves solving a broken healthcare industry, poorly allocated government agricultural subsidies, questionable food/agribusiness values, individual values in regards to food/diet, socioeconomic issues involving access to healthy, food, and many other moving pieces. Right here, right now though, I still think wearing a mask is more than a political or symbolic gesture, but an effective tool to curtail the spread of this highly contagious virus.

Qotsaautopilot

I think every single thing should be open. Common sense mitigation like excessive hand washing and sanitizing. Masks if necessary etc.

Your argument with heart disease is in the right place but heart disease is a slow burn and not contagious except from irresponsible parents to a child that doesn’t know better.

As far as Biden goes there is definitely a question of cognitive ability but I’m not sure a president with early dementia is worse than a bi-polar maniac. Trump could literally not do anything different than now with the exception of appearing to unite people and appearing presidential. He would get re-elected. Instead he spouts off nonsense and takes zero responsibility for anything even when facts say otherwise all will being terrible divisive. And at every turn sabotages what the smart people around him are trying to accomplish.

I honestly think Biden could stand up there and attempt to unite the country and just let the people around him do their jobs. We only need the appearance of a president and someone that acts like one. Trump can’t get out of his own way to his detriment. I won’t vote for him again and it’s people like me that have mixed ballots that elected him.

YourMom

OK we agree on opening everything up. I am for that too and like I said before will wear a mask if the sheep come back to the field.
The difference between you and I is that I could not in my right conscious vote for someone who has dementia. We are talking about the leader of the free world (somewhat free now). What your saying is you would elect someone that is totally unfit to be President over your hatred for Trump. You would be electing his running mate. You can call him bipolar, maniac, or racists all you want, which is untrue, but he has done a good job until Corona stopped the economy. If Trump had the same symptoms as Biden the media would be all over him. I wouldn't vote for Trump with dementia either, I would look at a 3rd candidate. Yes Trump has a big ego but he says what he is going to do and does it. There is no politics with him. He did a great job keeping the economy going strong until COVID. NK was hiring like crazy and there was no end, now after this virus where soooo many people are afraid I am worried about our jobs and the survival of all the carriers.
Draining the swamp must have really put the left on freak out mode. They are so afraid of losing power that they will do anything to get rid of Trump. If that means taking over most media, yelling Russia, a failed impeachment, or destroying the economy using COVID as a tool I can see them doing that. What's a few more months of a bad economy to get some power? What I really worry about is if Trump is re elected will they literally kill him? You and I both know that the strong economy was Trump's greatest asset going in to the election, and statistically (libs hate stats) if you have a strong economy your chances of re election are way higher.

Av viii

Your reasoning is unsound. You can’t catch a heart attack Einstein. And with the orange disaster in the WH hanging himself on twitter every day I’d keep my mouth shut all the way to November too. Cognitive abilities? Hahahahaha. I almost spit my kale salad into my kale smoothie. This half wit in office is so mentally deficient he can’t hold two separate ideas in his head at the same time.
You guys never cease to amaze me with the lack of self respect you have. He dodges the draft and rips gold star families but he’s pro military? He craps on a gold toilet and you guys think he cares one iota about you. Laughable. Be honest with yourself about why you like him. You’ll at least be respectable. He’s not a republican. He’s only out for himself. Wake up.

SSlow

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/09/...read-covid-19/

An effective tool for those with active symptoms, sure. However it is still not entirely known what good it does for the asymptomatic population...it could be helping tremendously or it could be nothing more than a bacteria trap on one's face. What IS known is the multiple positive benefits of living a healthy lifestyle. There is literally mountains of data on this but the mainstream sources and those attempting to mask shame others via social media have been absolutely silent on this topic. I realize that it is no small undertaking but there will never be a better time than right now while people think they are being ultra health conscious.

The only easy day was yesterday.

69fastback

it really makes it difficult to take your arguments seriously when you just come in here slinging crap, hoping it sticks somewhere.

And the way you’re taking to your fellow employees really makes you no different than what you accuse that big orange man of being.