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Old 07-16-2021 | 07:56 PM
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Demand market rate and nothing less. Also, profit sharing.
If you want United wages, apply to United lol
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Old 07-17-2021 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineorSuici
If you want United wages, apply to United lol
Fantastic thought process, have you considered joining the negotiating committee?
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Old 07-17-2021 | 09:38 AM
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Just dont sell our min staffing mou and min 4 days off between pairings for that market rate and profit sharing.
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Old 07-17-2021 | 10:33 AM
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Just my 2 cents, I could care less if I get 85% of what the legacies get, so long as I can drop below min guarantee and keep the QOL of our current contact. I wouldn’t vote yes on $400/hr if it meant I would be working my *** off for the rest of my career here
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Old 07-17-2021 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by MGuy
Just dont sell our min staffing mou and min 4 days off between pairings for that market rate and profit sharing.
I definitely agree. It's extremely important.

What is market rate? Is it legacy pay? Is it JB/SWA? Is it F9? Obviously being cost competitive is important during times of growth, but costs consist of a lot more than just wages. We are also in times of extraordinary inflation.

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Old 07-17-2021 | 11:29 AM
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Just my 2 cents, I could care less if I get 85% of what the legacies get, so long as I can drop below min guarantee and keep the QOL of our current contact. I wouldn’t vote yes on $400/hr if it meant I would be working my *** off for the rest of my career here
so you do care….
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Old 07-17-2021 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by CLE to IAH
so you do care….
The saying is "I couldn't care less". Think about it
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Old 07-17-2021 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RonnyK320
The saying is "I couldn't care less". Think about it
sounds to me like he cares at least a little, since his remark was that he could care less.
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Old 07-17-2021 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Sike
I definitely agree. It's extremely important.

What is market rate? Is it legacy pay? Is it JB/SWA? Is it F9? Obviously being cost competitive is important during times of growth, but costs consist of a lot more than just wages. We are also in times of extraordinary inflation.
In APC, "Industry Standard" means that you cherry pick every single thing thats good at other contracts, ignore the negatives, and then take the highest pay rate and increase it by 30%. Anything less than that is not "Industry Standard".
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Old 07-17-2021 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Sike
We are also in times of extraordinary inflation.
Not EXTRAORDINARY inflation, that would be the Carter era or (gulp) Weimar Germany, but certainly higher than normal inflation.

Perhaps hourly rates should be tied to the CPI?
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