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Old 11-06-2022 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by dualinput
Pay is black on white. If they want to scratch out the pay table and put Alaska+ in it’s place it takes one meeting. Don’t tell me a “quick” deal should mean less pay. Pay is not nuanced taking multiple meetings to negotiate language.

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Old 11-06-2022 | 06:00 PM
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What ever rates we currently agree to, (and I’m not holding my breath on anything coming out anytime soon), are what we are telling management we are currently worth.

Therefore, Jetblue rates would be an absolute No from me. Even with a snap up.

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Old 11-06-2022 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Spear it
What ever rates we currently agree to, (and I’m not holding my breath on anything coming out anytime soon), are what we are telling management we are currently worth.

Therefore, Jetblue rates would be an absolute No from me. Even with a snap up.

AS+
While speaking with my CA rep, the “ask” by the MEC has changed with the AS deal and AA basically saying shove it with their AIP. JBLU rates aren’t going to cut it.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
While speaking with my CA rep, the “ask” by the MEC has changed with the AS deal and AA basically saying shove it with their AIP. JBLU rates aren’t going to cut it.
Would be nice to lead from the front instead of riding coat tails.
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Old 11-06-2022 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
I don’t clean, but I’ll do belts and shades. I mean, honestly, you see the non-revving FA’s who make NO money and get absolutely abused by the company doing it, helping each other, and you’re just gonna walk off? It takes like 3 minutes of your time.
Yeah. I walk. They have a union. Even Spirit contracts out cleaning.
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Old 11-07-2022 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Yeah. I walk. They have a union. Even Spirit contracts out cleaning.
Here at Spirit I not only help clean, because the cleaners make such little money, but I get there early to help with the Security Search, then if maintenance is running behind I carry the 02 tanks out for the replacement. Goes to say when I chip in on loading some bags, I always get an d-5 door closure. I then ask ramp for a "roll and hold" to make our numbers look good too.

Other tips are just land on time! RVR is actually unreliable just follow the glide slope to wheel touchdown, I also find using just one reverser (if that) to idle is only necessary so I can get the SETWA going as soon as possible. It also saves fuel to just declare "minimum fuel" to land straight in without flying all the way around the stupid traffic pattern on some ridiculously long and unnecessary downwind vectors.

Thankfully, if we're making good time I always get that "Reduce to Cost Index 0 message. The heck with the traffic behind us, by slowing down to .74 I'm saving them fuel too so not only am I saving the world fossil fuel I'm reducing Carbon Emissions. Win for everybody on earth!
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Old 11-07-2022 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hugh Betcha
Here at Spirit I not only help clean, because the cleaners make such little money, but I get there early to help with the Security Search, then if maintenance is running behind I carry the 02 tanks out for the replacement. Goes to say when I chip in on loading some bags, I always get an d-5 door closure. I then ask ramp for a "roll and hold" to make our numbers look good too.

Other tips are just land on time! RVR is actually unreliable just follow the glide slope to wheel touchdown, I also find using just one reverser (if that) to idle is only necessary so I can get the SETWA going as soon as possible. It also saves fuel to just declare "minimum fuel" to land straight in without flying all the way around the stupid traffic pattern on some ridiculously long and unnecessary downwind vectors.

Thankfully, if we're making good time I always get that "Reduce to Cost Index 0 message. The heck with the traffic behind us, by slowing down to .74 I'm saving them fuel too so not only am I saving the world fossil fuel I'm reducing Carbon Emissions. Win for everybody on earth!


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Old 11-07-2022 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
Yeah. I walk. They have a union. Even Spirit contracts out cleaning.
Yeah, sorry. Some in this group just don't get it.

Hey, we finally agree on something. 😁
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Old 11-07-2022 | 10:18 AM
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Hey great news. Latest union email says progress made but company wasn't ready with counter proposal. More delaying tactics.
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Old 11-07-2022 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by gripngrab
Hey great news. Latest union email says progress made but company wasn't ready with counter proposal. More delaying tactics.
Same old Bendo and same old BS. There’s absolutely no urgency on their part to slow attrition. Guys/gals on the fence about leaving.. well there’s your sign.
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